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Post Options Post Options   Quote InfernoFiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 9:51pm
I found the thermostat. I didn't know this was in the
back... I think I know where the thermostat cap is too
now... but I don't where the radiator opening IN the back
is. I don't have a Fiero Manual, and I know I couldn't hold
out without one for so long. My apologies, hopefully I will
find a manual soon!
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As I said in my PM response to you, go to the Paper Based Archives, specifically Here and you should find all the info you need.

 

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Hello,

This post is from a while ago, but I did manage to
hopefully burp the coolant system.

My car overheated again though today while I was doing
some driving, I always check my temp gauge, and it slowly
creeped above 220, and I managed to pull over at around
230 to see if the fan is running, and to my surprise IT
wasn't. The temp was going higher and higher and nothing
happened with the fan.

Does this narrow down to the fact that my fan sensor is
broken, and I can get a replacement sensor from the
Rodney Dickmans store to fix this once and for all?
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Originally posted by InfernoFiero InfernoFiero wrote:

...can I get a replacement sensor from Rodney Dickmans store to fix this once and for all?

Works for me.

Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

Dickman's 210° on and 200° off fan switch and the factory 195° thermostat.

This is based on the assumption (rightly or wrongly) that there is nothing else wrong with your Fiero.

 

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Make sure the fan itself is ok before buying the fan switch.  One way to do this is by taking the plug off the switch and shorting the contact to ground (engine).  If you do that, the fan should turn on.  Ignition switch has to be on.

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Originally posted by Dawg Dawg wrote:

Make sure the fan itself is ok before buying the fan switch.

Damien, I believe he said the fan works, but I'm not 100% sure!

Originally posted by InfernoFiero InfernoFiero wrote:

I could hear sounds from the front of the car that sounded like "WHIR WHIR WHIR", and I could instantaneously feel it was coolant related.

 

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My fan works when I put the a/c on to full blast, is
that a good indication in itself?
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Originally posted by InfernoFiero InfernoFiero wrote:

My fan works when I put the a/c on to full blast...

I don't believe "full blast" is necessary.

So I'm curious... when your Fiero appears to be overheating, why don't you activate the rad fan by turning on the a/c then? That's not the solution to your engine cooling issues, but it should at least prevent coolant from puking out of the reservoir (unless there are additional problems).

Originally posted by InfernoFiero InfernoFiero wrote:

My car overheated again though today while I was doing some driving, I always check my temp gauge, and it slowly creeped above 220, and I managed to pull over at around 230...

As long as you're moving forward, no fan is required to maintain proper coolant temperatures. You still have the air deflector under the front of your Fiero, don't you?

If your Fiero is actually overheating (and it's not just a faulty gauge/sender), then either you haven't burped the cooling system properly, your water pump is faulty (loose impeller), or there's a restriction to the coolant flow (crushed pipes, plugged rad), etc.

One of our club members (who shall remain nameless) used to have a problem with his Fiero overheating worse when his fan came on, and only while he was driving. It would cool down fine when he stopped. Turns out he had wired the fan in backwards and the fan was trying to push air forward through the rad the same time as air was naturally trying to flow back through the rad. The end result was that there was no air flow through the rad (when the fan was running while the car was moving). Took him awhile to figure out the problem! True story.

 

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My car was overheating shortly after exiting lions gate
bridge and while being stuck in downtown traffic (stop and
little go). I think it was the lack of movement that lead
to my car overheating. I just found more info on this air
deflector, and I'll check if my car has that though. I'll
burp the coolant system one more time too.

So as long as any Fiero is moving forward the fan doesn't
come on as there is no need, or are you just theorizing
that the fan is simply not needed when going forward?
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Originally posted by InfernoFiero InfernoFiero wrote:

..or are you just theorizing that the fan is simply not needed when going forward?

It's not just a "theory".

 

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On a seperate note, I can't open my thermostat cap. I am
trying very hard and it just won't budge. Any special
tricks?
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How'd you get it off when you burped the coolant system?

 

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I opened it without any hassle the first time, just simply
screwing it off!
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Well, it's not corroded on then. Just use something like a wet rag to give your hands a bit more grip.

You could also use a large pipe wrench, but you gotta be careful. You don't want to deform the cap or especially the neck.

 

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Ummm, they don't just screw off.  You have to push fairly hard while turning till you get the lid past the locking tabs.

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Originally posted by Dawg Dawg wrote:

Ummm, they don't just screw off.  You have to push fairly hard while turning till you get the lid past the locking tabs.

Do you actually push your thermostat cap down while turning? I never have. I'm aware of the locking tabs you're referring to, but I find if I just turn the cap without cocking it off to one side or another that it'll "click" past the tabs and continue to turn to come off.

Having said that, yes, I do push down on a rad cap when turning to remove it.

 

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Originally posted by InfernoFiero InfernoFiero wrote:

I opened it without any hassle the first time, just simply screwing it off!

It just dawned on me that perhaps the first time you took off the thermostat cap that possibly it wasn't turned all the way on and therefore had not clicked past the tabs that Damien (Dawg) was referring to. If that's the case, and if you twisted it all the way on when you replaced it, that might explain why it seems more difficult this time around to remove.

 

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I believe I have burped the coolant system.

After repeating step 4 and 5 twice, I turn on the engine
for 30 seconds, and see that the coolant has gone down just
a tiny bit in the thermostat opening... Should I assume
that I have removed almost most of the air out of the
system because in the burping instructions it mentions that
after briefly turning on the car that I should top up the
thermostat opening.

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