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InfernoFiero
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Topic: Fiero spitting out COOLANT Posted: 02 July 2011 at 2:02pm |
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Hello,
I was driving my Fiero two days ago, and I actually dipped into the 4 rpm (fast acceleration) and my car is the 1986 4 cyl version. It was overheating, I pulled over and when I opened the hood of the car I could see the coolant spraying out of the coolant cap. I fortunately pulled over near a mechanic shop, and with just the visual inspection the mechanic concluded that nothing was damaged with the coolant, and all the coolant leak was from the coolant cap. When I opened the hood I observed the coolant was at maximum level, but by the time the mechanic came it was below low. Anyways, I topped off with the coolant I bought from the mechanic, and it was good to go. Now, today, I was driving on the North Shore hill, stuck in traffic, and my car strangely was overheating AGAIN. I could hear sounds from the front of the car that sounded like "WHIR WHIR WHIR", and I could instantaneously feel it was coolant related. I pulled over once again and I noticed that the coolant was dripping from the cap, and the coolant level was at maximum, and by waiting 10 mins more the coolant was gone to below minimum. Can anyone give me a rough or even a vague idea of why this is happening? I always check my engine oil and coolant level on a regular basis, and I know no coolant pipe has broke! I am sorry if I am burden to this forum with such silly Fiero questions!!! Thanks in ADVANCE! |
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Dawg
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2011 at 6:49pm | |
Hello.
On this Forum there are no silly Fiero questions. It sounds like your fan is not working. Some cars have a heat switch on the motor and some fans are controlled by the computer. I would check to make sure the electric fan actually functions then if it's ok, then find why it's not getting power. The Dawg |
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InfernoFiero
Senior Member Joined: 25 June 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 133 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2011 at 7:16pm | |
I don't know what kind of fan I have.
If my fan has the heat switch I would best check it out by turning on my car's A/C! "http://www.calgaryfieros.com/OSGdocs/coolant-fan.html" But how would I check my fan performance if it is the electric one? Thank you! |
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Colby
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2011 at 7:58pm | |
I had similar issues with my 86 Duke. If I sat in traffic for too long car would get really hot before the fan turned on and sometimes the coolant would boil out of the reservoir. I bought Rodney Dickman's lower temp fan switch and thermostat and haven't had any issues since. And of course you should verify that your fan is actually coming on when you reach temps that high.
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InfernoFiero
Senior Member Joined: 25 June 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 133 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2011 at 9:02pm | |
Hello,
Thanks for your responses! So, I turned on the air condition for my car for maximum heat, and my fan was working! So I can acknowledge the fan works! Should I get this part then (http://rodneydickman.com/catalog/product_info.php? cPath=21&products_id=235)? It says its for 84-86 L4 Fiero but I have no idea what L4 means... |
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2011 at 9:20pm | |
So you know your fan works. I suspect the overheating is not a fan issue at all. Do you know how to properly "burp" the Fiero's cooling system?
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Dawg
Senior Member Joined: 15 August 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 988 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2011 at 9:37pm | |
What you need to do is let the car idle in the driveway with the front hood open. Watch the heat gauge as it goes up and up. Listen for the fan coming on or keep an eye out for it. Make note when it happens.
Make sure your air conditioning is off. We want it to come on because the car is getting too hot not because the air conditioning is on. The Dickman lower temp switch usually ends up masking the real problem and making your car run way too cold. This will give you bad gas mileage and will eventually start overheating later once the real problem gets bad enough. If your fan ends up coming on at the right time then you might just need to "burp" the coolant system. The Dawg |
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InfernoFiero
Senior Member Joined: 25 June 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 133 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2011 at 9:50pm | |
Is this a good guide on burping the coolant system
(http://www.calgaryfieros.com/OSGdocs/cooling- system.html)Patrick? Before I do that though, I will double check the fan by doing what Dawg suggested! |
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Colby
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2011 at 2:22am | |
Yes, I agree, it's not necessarily the way to solve a problem with your cooling system. As for the downsides, in my duke at least, the car runs at the same temperature as always and my gas mileage is the same as far as I can tell (I check every tank). Do the V6's need to run warmer or is it possible my car has always run a bit too cold? |
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2011 at 11:21am | |
On the V6 I recommend running the stock fan switch and a 180 thermostat. Running temp on a V6 is usually a tic below the 105 mark (middle) of the gauge. In traffic long enough mine will creep up to about 108 then the fan comes on and drops it way down quickly.
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2011 at 12:19pm | |
Funny, on my '86 GT (automatic), after many different combinations tried, I decided on the exact opposite. I settled for Dickman's 210° on and 200° off fan switch and the factory 195° thermostat. Overheating was never a problem with this thermostat/fan switch pairing. I now have the same combination with my '84 duke and it works great.
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2011 at 12:24pm | |
I usually have the nose lower than the back a bit, but yes, these directions are fine.
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ARTIC-1
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2011 at 4:31pm | |
I have the same problem with my 87/stock 2.8.could be a Vaccume leek or water pump isnt moveing coolant quickly vary fast,if i rev it up a bit,over 2000 it cools off real quick.the Eng temp moves to fast,up an down,poor flow,over volume.so i found this an thinking of giving it a try.
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Dawg
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 July 2011 at 12:53am | |
Your water pump is buggered my friend. Loosen your alternator belt and try and wiggle the pump pulley. If it moves at all, it needs to be replaced.
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InfernoFiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2011 at 7:31pm | |
Does a 1984 Fiero have a thermostat? I can't find it, and
it seems to me that online part store sells thermostats for Fiero from 1985 and above. |
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Patrick
Newbie Joined: 19 April 2008 Location: Vancouver Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2011 at 7:42pm | |
If you can't find it, it probably doesn't have one installed. It's (supposed to be) in the same place as with every '84-'88 Fiero... under the coolant fill cap on the engine.
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InfernoFiero
Senior Member Joined: 25 June 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 133 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2011 at 7:54pm | |
Patrick, could my Fiero be spitting out coolant because I
don't have this part? |
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2011 at 7:56pm | |
I suspect it's the other way around. Someone probably removed the thermostat because it was spitting out coolant (overheating). However, that's not the solution. Did you ever "burp" the system as we advised?
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InfernoFiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2011 at 7:58pm | |
No, I haven't. I was about do it right now, until I
realized I didn't have a thermostat. Can I go on with the procedure of burping the coolant system and just ignore the directions in regards to the thermostat etc. |
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2011 at 8:00pm | |
Sure, but don't keep driving it without a thermostat as your engine will never heat up properly (which will kill your gas mileage and it's hard on the engine).
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