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    Posted: 02 May 2009 at 10:05pm

Hey, I was wondering a few things about big brake upgrades. I had been looking at the West Coast Fiero brake section ( http://www.westcoastfiero.com/brakes/brakes_12.html ), specifically the bottom set. They're twelve inches, and I was wondering how that would affect daily drivability. Secondly, they're $440, when the others are all over $1000, is there a reason why anyone can figure out? Lastly, how much does it cost to replace the standard, weak-brakes (Rotors and pads) the Fiero ships with. Any answers would be greatly appreciated, as my Fiero is in dire need of new brakes soon.

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Look at what they each include.

The last set is just 4 rotors, and 4 adapter plates.
You recycle your calipers etc.

Look into the Lebaron setup too.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Romeo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2009 at 10:54pm

My calipers are still in tip top shape (Surprisingly) so apart from that, is it much more expensive than a standard new rotors/new pads set-up?

And sorry, I'm a bit of a noob (And by a bit, I mean completely): What's the LeBaron set-up?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Capt Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2009 at 6:43am

Just go and grab this - problem solved.  Although the add is a bit misleading, the stock Fiero brakes are 9.75" all around.  What he is selling is a very nice complete brake kit, and I know the seller.  Its a fair price for what he is offering.

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pts/1132259541.html

 

 

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Thats a great deal:)
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Hmmm, sounds good. I know I need to do a good overhaul on my brakes anyways. Maybe it'll be a nice pick up.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2009 at 11:13am
If you do give him a call (whichever of you), make sure you mention you're a WCF member and that you saw the ad on the forum.

FYI - this is the brake kit that I mentioned at the last meeting.

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Bidding war, FTW. =)
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He does have all the parts pretty much listed, sure you can purchase most local...
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Question is, how much would it cost to do so? I'm on a student's budget, so I can't go completely nuts on the job (Or else I'd run 13's all around, with two piece rotors).
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Unfortunately, you can't just go out and buy that conversion, as you need very specific parts like the brackets.   The only "cheap" brake upgrade that can be done is the Grand Am conversion, however you lose your parking brake.

          I recommend against doing front only Grand Am conversions as you will end up with really bad lock up on the fronts before the rears are doing anything.  Want to get an idea, na I won't recommend this, but imagine if you were to use vise grips on your rear brake lines, take your car out to say 80kph and try to stop in the rain, darn near impossible to do with any short distance in mind.

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Yeah, I don't want the vehicle to be dangerous, that's for sure. I think I'll probably go with this one, I'm just trying to juggle finances, I've got schooling to pay for, and I have to travel to get to my sister's wedding which doesn't leave a whole lot of funds left over for a brake overhaul. Then again, I'd also rather not completely annihilate my vehicle due to postponing brake repairs for too long either. Bit of a lose-lose situation.
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That's what I have David, you helped me install...lol, and I race...certainly dependent on the driver
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Well I'm certainly no expert driver either (As I'm sure both David and Austin can now attest to!) so perhaps I should scrounge my pennies in the mean time, and hope I have enough to float for the brakes.
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Originally posted by Bassman Bassman wrote:

That's what I have David, you helped me install...lol, and I race...certainly dependent on the driver

Brian your situation is kinda the odd man out, you and your car are setup with race tires and racing in your blood.  Your front tires are sticky enough that that won't lock until you are really hard on the brakes, and by that time the rear calipers are finally doing something.  I'll bet you do still end up with one front wheel locking up before the rears do though.  In my 85GT with stock type front brakes and good pads with grand am rear brakes and moderate pads, when I hammer the brakes, All 4 lock up at the same time.  Under moderate braking situations, I feel the rears start to grab before the fronts, its like someone dropped an anchor out the back of the car.  I personally prefer a slight rear bias to the brakes, I always run a larger rear tire and usually have removed any extra weight in the front of the car, so I want the rears to be working quicker than the fronts.   When I do the front Grand Am's I'll be removing the spring in the proportioning  valve completely. 

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I hear ya:)...wish there was an economical way to do the rears and not loose the e-brake...if one does not drive on the edge you would be alright:)
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Someone must have picked out those brakes already, that Tim fellow phoned me back today to say they were gone already. Any other ideas guys?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Capt Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2009 at 6:27pm

  I would track down Austin he was working on a Cadillac brake conversion that is very similar to the brake setup that Tim was selling.  May have very well used the same callipers and rotors, just have to locate the brackets from someone on Pennocks. 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Romeo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2009 at 3:18pm

The same Austin who went on the run with us? Auto-Cross-Austin?

How would one go about contacting him?

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Yep same guy, just pop over to the member list and send a PM to Austin.  Racing, Autocross, Austin.
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