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    Posted: 20 August 2011 at 10:54pm

I just got back from a short five day trip to Vancouver Island (Port Alberni, Long Beach, etc) with my girlfriend and her two kids and the hound (Frankie). We used her car, a 2001 Ford Taurus wagon with the Duratec DOHC 3.0 engine. Nice car, however...

The Check Engine Light came on, and stayed on. How do I access the codes on this thing? Is there a "paperclip" trick (as with the Fiero)?

Also, it sounds like the clutch bearings (or something along those lines) on the A/C compressor are self destructing. What a racket!

I'll be googling this, but just in case anyone has any advice to offer, I thought I'd ask here. Thanks.

 

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If an OBD II scanner needs to be used to retrieve the codes, can anyone recommend an inexpensive one to use?

 

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i am not sure about the fords but i have, on a newer dodge, turned on, then off, then quickly on again, the ignition switch. not starting the car. a light in the dash started to flash...

i do hope there is a quick thing like that for you...
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Gary, it appears that an OBD II reader is required to access the codes on a Ford. Apparently some of the better units also have a way of "diagnosing" the problem (as opposed to simply displaying a code number).

Anyone have any advice on these units? I suppose it wouldn't hurt for me to buy one, as I believe they'll work on most cars made since (and including) 1996.

 

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I have a scangauge II in my MINI that is supposed to be able to reset codes.
But I'm not sure how to do it on a Ford.


Oh...I found the instructions here....

Scangauge II user manual


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Originally posted by beken beken wrote:

I have a scangauge II in my MINI...

Ken, so I take it that this Scangauge II is mounted and connected full-time in the MINI then? Do you find it beneficial to be used in this manner?

 

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Actually, Patrick,

The scanguage is mounted by velcro to the dash of my car.

I use it for the gauges.   I currently have it set up to measure Intake air
temp, coolant temperature, intake boost, and ignition timing. There are
other gauges that can be programmed also.   I haven't had to a check
engine light happen on the MINI yet, so whenever I do a scan, it says no
codes found. But it does read codes and you can reset some of them with
the scangauge.


I mounted it with velcro for the case where somebody has a car problem
and I can just pull it out and use it.   But have never had to so I'm a bit
rusty in know what to do.   It looks like you just hook it up and wait for
the scangauge to sync with the computer in your car.



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Originally posted by beken beken wrote:

I mounted it with velcro for the case where somebody has a car problem and I can just pull it out and use it. But have never had to so I'm a bit rusty in know what to do. It looks like you just hook it up and wait for the scangauge to sync with the computer in your car.

When I get Anne's car mobile again, any chance we could plug your Scangauge II into her Taurus and pull the codes?

I said "when" I get her car mobile again because the very first time Anne went to use her car after we got back, the A/C compressor seems to have seized. (I haven't seen the car myself yet.) The single serpentine belt won't turn (or has snapped) and therefore nothing (alternator, water pump, power steering) works. We were very lucky we made it home from the Island!

Off to Pick-a-Part in the morning...

 

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Oh....I guess I should answer your question.

Boost - That's how well the supercharger is working. If my belts are slipping
or something is misaligned, boost will be down. For a normally aspirated
engine, the gauge is converted to measure vacuum, the ability of your
car's engine to suck air in through the intake.

Ignition timing - no reason, really. With ECM's controlling that, the only
issue might be if you have short somewhere. Useful if you have a custom
tune.

Celsius water temp (as opposed to Fahrenheit water temp). - my car's
generation of MINIs have a reputation of radiator fans failing due to the
power steering motor being on the same circuit and mounted on the
bottom of the car.   If my car is going to overheat, I'll see it before it
blows.

Celsius Intake Air. THe MINI is supercharged and the intake air is cooled
via an intercooler before entering the engine.   The efficiency of the
cooling (especially in the summer) can be monitored by this gauge.

Those of you racing your Fieros on the Autocross will find most of these
measurements beneficial as they all affect the ability of your engine
making power.


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Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

Originally posted by beken beken wrote:

I mounted it with velcro for the case
where somebody has a car problem and I can just pull it out and use it.
But have never had to so I'm a bit rusty in know what to do. It looks like
you just hook it up and wait for the scangauge to sync with the computer
in your car.


When I get Anne's car mobile again, any chance we could plug your
Scangauge II into her Taurus and pull the codes?


I said "when" I get her car mobile again because the very first time Anne
went to use her car after we got back, the A/C compressor seems to have
seized. (I haven't seen the car myself yet.) The single serpentine belt won't
turn (or has snapped) and therefore nothing (alternator, water pump,
power steering) works. We were very lucky we made it home from the
Island!


Off to Pick-a-Part in the morning...


 



Yah...sure.   Let me know and pop on by. It shouldn't take 5 minutes to
hook it up and see what codes have been thrown.



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Originally posted by beken beken wrote:

Yah...sure.   Let me know and pop on by. It shouldn't take 5 minutes to hook it up and see what codes have been thrown.

Thanks Ken, it might be a few days. It's going to depend how I make out with trying to replace the A/C compressor.

 

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I finally got Anne's car functional again. I got an A/C compressor (with pulley and clutch) from Pick-a-Part and dropped it in.

Yeah, "dropped it in". If only it had actually been that easy!

Ken, I've sent you an email.

 

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That's good to hear. 
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Congrats old fellow.
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Thanks guys.

I still need to pull the codes to find out why the Check Engine Light is on. The car seems to run just fine, but...

 

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did you put the AC compressor in backwards...? 
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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

did you put the AC compressor in backwards...? 

It might've been easier to install that way!

What a miserable job, for something that really should've been quite simple.  

 

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Patrick, since the Ford runs fine and the code comes back right after resetting, I suspect the battery is bad. It might have enough juice to turn the starter motor, but it is possible the voltage is low. A plate inside the battery might have gone bad.    

The P1633 code just indicates low battery voltage.   
The P0000 code means all the other sensors appear to be fine.




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Ken, thanks for hooking your code reader up to Anne's Taurus.

The next time I'm by Anne's place I'll have my multimeter with me to take some readings off the battery and alternator.

 

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