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mxracer208
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Topic: More Data Posted: 02 July 2012 at 4:16pm |
I got the USB ALDL cable from Red Devil River the other day and I tried it out
this afternoon. My car runs very rich and it smells terrible. I put a new O2 sensor in last year. The car is an 86 GT with the 2.8 and a 4 speed. key on, warm Coolant Temp: 89 and 192.2 MAT: 28.33 and 83 MAP: 4.69 and 98.55 BLM: 128 INT: 128 O2: 350.76 (it varied a lot) BPW: 6.99 IAC position: 131 If needed I can also post idle and driving data too. I am not sure what all these numbers mean so any assistance would be awesome. Thanks |
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bcampbell
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2012 at 1:45am |
If BLM and INT are always at 128 even when driving then
it sounds like it's not leaving closed loop. If BLM/INTs are below 128 that means that the engine is running rich and the computer is leaning the fuel mixture to compensate. If it is above 128 then it means the engine is running lean and adding fuel to compensate. IIRC it can swing between 108 and 140 or something like that. BLM is the long-term multiplier and INT is the short term. INT will usually change constantly but BLM doesn't change as quickly. These only change once in closed loop (engine fully warmed up). If you're running rich all the time it can foul the O2 sensor quickly so the computer might think it's lean when it's not, adding fuel and running rich. Also some say that different brands of O2 sensors have slightly different signals so it's best to buy a Delphi sensor. If you were to unplug the O2 sensor and it didn't run as rich (although it would throw a code); that would probably indicate an issue with the O2 sensor. If it's not leaving open-loop that's another issue because the computer won't use the O2 sensor to compensate for undesired air/fuels until it enters closed-loop. To enter closed loop it usually needs to reach a certain temperature and needs to be running for a set amount of time (unsure of the specifics). Hope that's helpful. |
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
'89 Firebird 3500T, T56 |
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mxracer208
Member Joined: 28 October 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 68 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2012 at 12:54pm |
I watched the readings that I recorded while driving. The BLM and INT varied
between 120 and 129. Mostly at 128. It was always running closed loop. O2 varied between 110 and 950. INT and BLM changed at the same times always. The car was up to temperature, (185 F or 85 C) |
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bcampbell
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 July 2012 at 7:23pm |
Sounds like it might be running slightly rich but the
computer is able to compensate. Does it still run rich once fully warmed up? Try seeing how it runs with the O2 unplugged. O2 voltage varies so quickly on my engine I only use the BLMs to get an idea of what the air/fuels are actually like. |
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
'89 Firebird 3500T, T56 |
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bcampbell
Senior Member Joined: 14 November 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 160 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 July 2012 at 8:26pm |
I would also check for exhaust leaks as that could affect
the O2 sensor reading. |
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
'89 Firebird 3500T, T56 |
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