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    Posted: 08 December 2013 at 4:25pm
The 88 fieros have a unique front UCA that has the
camber/caster adjuster as a rod attached by the bushings.
the only way to get the bushings out of the control arm is
to use a special tool. eg
http://www.opentip.com/product_info.php?products_id=3618539
does any one have such a tool I could borrow?
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Sorry. 88s are pretty rare. Not sure who's left in the club who might have one.


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What kind of bushing are you planning on installing?

On my car I heated up the bushings (a lot) then pushed them out with a couple of long screw drivers. Though that only works if you're installing polyurethane bushings, since you re-use the sleeve.

Also, you may able to find a store that will rent the tool to you. I know Patrick recently rented a ball joint press (which can be also be used to push out the bottom bushings) from the Canadian Tire in Abbotsford. Though with it being a specialty tool, it could be difficult to find...


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im putting rubber in my car, the polly has gone bad and i
dont want to deal with it any more, I have the whole front
and rear suspension to swap but need to put new bushings in
the swap parts. I might just take the arms to kal tire and
have them swap the uca bushings
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Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

Also, you may able to find a store that will rent the tool to you. I know Patrick recently rented a ball joint press (which can be also be used to push out the bottom bushings) from the Canadian Tire in Abbotsford.

And it's worthwhile mentioning that the "rental" didn't cost anything.  Canadian Tire has a loan program (at least at some locations) where you "buy" the specialty tool, but you get a complete refund as long as you return the tool within 72 hours. I wrote about it HERE.

Originally posted by DannyCanuck DannyCanuck wrote:

im putting rubber in my car, the polly has gone bad and i dont want to deal with it any more...

What exactly has "gone bad" with the poly? Excessive noise? Loose?

 

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loose, the bushings have about 5mm of slop
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Originally posted by DannyCanuck DannyCanuck wrote:

loose, the bushings have about 5mm of slop

Interesting. I guess I'm a little naive, but I thought poly suspension bushings (if installed properly) would last "forever".

How old were they? Did they have a ton of miles on them?

 

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one year after install as of now. they started to go bad
after about 3/6 months, i presume dew to bad installation
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Originally posted by DannyCanuck DannyCanuck wrote:

they started to go bad after about 3/6 months...

Wow, that's surprising to hear. I wonder what the heck the shop could've done wrong. Maybe someone who's installed poly can offer some feedback here.

The front end of my recently acquired '88 Formula has way too much play in it (despite replacing all ball joints). When I turn sharply something feels real loose. So before autocross starts in the spring, I'll need to decide whether to replace the control arm bushings with rubber or poly.

 

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Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

Originally posted by DannyCanuck DannyCanuck wrote:

they started to go bad after about 3/6 months...

Wow, that's surprising to hear. I wonder what the heck the shop could've done wrong. Maybe someone who's installed poly can offer some feedback here.

All I can think of is that maybe they didn't use nearly enough grease. I installed mine two years ago and used a lot of grease. No issues yet. Though from what I've read, I only expect them to last maybe 5 years at most.

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Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

I only expect them to last maybe 5 years at most.

That surprises me as well, considering that the OEM rubber bushings are good for a couple of decades.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Colby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 December 2013 at 12:58am
Sure they might work for a couple of decades, but are they actually "good" right up till the end? Probably not. Keep in mind you can be reasonably sure the stock bushings were installed correctly.

Anyway, the main motivation for polyurethane in my case was install time. I did rubber bushings once and it was such a pain that I'd rather replace the poly bushings again after five years than install the rubber ones once.
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im going back to rubber for comfort and not needing to
worry for a goodly long time about them
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