Porsche Club Autocross - July 8th |
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Patrick
Newbie Joined: 19 April 2008 Location: Vancouver Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2012 at 9:41pm | |||
I can see places where you could've got on the gas more, but yeah, I could also see/hear the problem your street tires were having trying retain their grip. Motor sounds good though!
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Colby
Admin Group Joined: 30 March 2009 Location: Abbotsford/Sask Status: Offline Points: 665 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2012 at 10:00pm | |||
I'd post a video, but all I have are these great pictures of the starting line. I did capture some data with my phone that I can post, just having trouble getting the app to upload the data right now.
Fun day, though a bit too hot. Patrick, you did really well with those tires, I'm betting that you're pricing out some for yourself right now. I've gotten about 10,000km out of mine so far (200 treadwear), with maybe 14 autocrosses, and they're starting to show their age now. That type of tire may be a good choice for you if you don't drive the car too much, but traction is addictive. |
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2012 at 10:06pm | |||
Kinda funny, I am assuming that its the same as the VW's from the 70's, when I was much younger my sister and I were riding in my Dads VW Bus, the bolts came loose from the inner pot, I don't know if it was a screw driver or a pry bar, but he jammed something in the pot and braced it against the chassie essentially locking that side of the diff and we managed to drive the remaing mile or so home like that. Fortunatly we were that close to home or I don't know what he would have done. I think I was about 10 and my sister was 6. Would have been a cool site to see a Fiero pushing a Porsche though. |
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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
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karnak
Senior Member Joined: 28 August 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 349 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2012 at 10:14pm | |||
ok. here is a run from the morning. looks like Harrison's (sort of).
it looks a little funny... i clicked a smoothing feature option on you tube and the cones can be seen to stretch. for more detail on this, i suggest to "Go ask Alice..." i must have been reaching for something as my helmet can be seen blocking the cameras line.. cant remember what though glad to hear Patrick that your coolant issue was solved. the auto-crosses seem to really 'shake down' a car in different and interesting ways. my temp. gauge was climbing also on the way home and i was betting that the extra oil cooling rad i had added last winter was going to keep things in check. it did (just). |
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karnak
Senior Member Joined: 28 August 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 349 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2012 at 10:23pm | |||
well, Capt. it was a tad embarrassing.. i was so happy i made it as far as i did. i didn't really know what it was until i got home.
beyond a paint scuff, all fared well. that would be the second time i have been rescued by a Fiero. Thanks to Colby (again)! |
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Patrick
Newbie Joined: 19 April 2008 Location: Vancouver Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2012 at 11:57pm | |||
Colby, PM sent!
I wanna see the video.
Dammit Gary, were you changing radio stations in the middle of a run again?
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Colby
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 July 2012 at 9:02pm | |||
So I did actually get one video, even if there's no data for it. It's one of my morning runs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fGscg8dv_c
And I took a picture of the course map: |
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 July 2012 at 11:15pm | |||
I'm anxiously awaiting the results to be posted by Rich...
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Bassman
Senior Post God Sir Brian Joined: 12 February 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2501 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 July 2012 at 7:26am | |||
How were the tires....are they dead now?...lol
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Brian (Bassman)
86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 July 2012 at 11:54am | |||
Oh, I dunno... nothing special.
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karnak
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 July 2012 at 9:40pm | |||
ok.. while we are waiting for the Corvette Autox to come up, here is another video with Patrick as a passenger. my run was a little loose, but fun never the less.
it will surely make you want to go to an event! |
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Patrick
Newbie Joined: 19 April 2008 Location: Vancouver Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 July 2012 at 10:18pm | |||
I couldn't believe it... There was Gary reaching for the dang radio again (immediately prior to losing control of the Porsche)... with me in the car no less! What a guy! Good recovery though, Gary.
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Colby
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2012 at 1:26am | |||
Results are up!
I'm a little bit surprised that I ranked as well as I did, since I felt like I never really figured out what I was supposed to be doing. I think Patrick will be pleased with how he ranked, despite losing to me again. Harrison did alright too, and it's something we should have done at this event, but we should ride in each others cars next event so we can both learn the course quicker. With a bit more practice he should be able to beat my time. |
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Patrick
Newbie Joined: 19 April 2008 Location: Vancouver Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2012 at 2:40pm | |||
The table that Rich posted is a little difficult to read as the 6th and final run isn't on the same line as the earlier runs. I redid the table to try and rectify this. I wish I could've shrank it down a bit, but I don't know how. Gary, Colby, Harrison, and myself are indicated by the white background.
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2012 at 3:05pm | |||
Not bad for an old man driving a 28 year old car with (less than) 90 HP. Too bad Tristan couldn't have been out there to witness the power of the mighty duke. [EDIT] It just dawned on me that I'm exactly twice the age of this old Fiero! Yes, I am rather pleased. I've always felt so constrained by the limitations of driving on street tires on the track. You'd think it would be the lack of HP with the 4-banger '84 that would be the most frustrating (it doesn't help, believe me!), but not being able to corner at any kind of speed has been the biggest handicap up 'til now. I'm looking forward to Saturday to see if I can continue do this well with Brian's R888's still on my car. Brian will be relieved to know that I've actually ordered some tires, so I won't be wearing his out over the rest of the summer. I've got some 225/50/16 Kumho Ecsta XS tires on the way. I'll catch Colby yet!
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Bassman
Senior Post God Sir Brian Joined: 12 February 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2501 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2012 at 3:13pm | |||
Nice tires, and nice times...Colby, he is only just a hair over 200ths of second slower on index, your going to have to push that V6 rebuilt beast of yours before this old fart beats you...toss that car into the corners and stay off the brakes:)!!!... Nice times guys... |
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Brian (Bassman)
86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2012 at 4:06pm | |||
Patrick do you still have the original control arm setup on that 84 or have they been updated to the 85. GM did find an issue in the front of the 84 Fiero, something that altered the turning radius they made an improvement in 85 which can be retrofitted to the 84.
Even though, you are doing one hell of a job with that duke, congrats. Side note, you are running the Isuzu, so be careful with sticky tires and 2nd gear, the 2nd gear in the Isuzu might as well be made of glass. Running a semi sticky street tire 225/50/16 on my V8 with the Isuzu I would get 6 months, I would guess with track use even on a duke, probably only good for a couple years assuming you are shifting hard into 2nd. (face it you must be driving the living hell out of that car, which is a huge feather in your cap, but just be careful) |
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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
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Bassman
Senior Post God Sir Brian Joined: 12 February 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2501 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2012 at 4:21pm | |||
Na, drive it the chit out of it, if your not breaking something, your not driving hard enough:)...lol
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Brian (Bassman)
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2012 at 5:34pm | |||
I was originally going to update the lower control arms to the later design when Clynt and I cut the front springs, but I didn't have the replacement arms when we did the work. I should've changed them when Gary, Colby and I took the front end apart to cut the metal bump stops down, but again, I hadn't yet acquired the later control arms. I believe the only advantage to the later style is a tighter turning radius, but yes, I could very well still do it.
Oh believe me, I run the duke as hard as I can on the track. Right from the starting line I floor it in first gear and then slam it into 2nd as soon as the power begins to drop off. Once into 2nd gear, I'm either continuing to floor the accelerator or I'm jumping on the brakes. There aren't many places on the track that the throttle isn't either fully on or fully off.
Exactly. The duke has been very resilient, despite my best efforts. I suspect one reason my times are as close to Colby's as they are is that Colby is reluctant to "break" his one vehicle. Therefore he doesn't push it as hard on the track as I do mine. I don't want to break my car either, but if I do I have other ones I can drive. As Gary has commented at the track... I drive it like I stole it.
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