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Twinn
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 October 2012 at 9:07pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Glad to hear the vehicle made it down without issues. Keep us updated on the progress if you can. Kind of excited to see how it turns out.
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 October 2012 at 3:15pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well I just got a message from FOY, the car is booked for the Dyno next Friday. (Nov 2nd at 2pm) I am so excited I am thinking about going down for the afternoon just to watch it go on the Dyno. The car might be able to come home after the Dyno, but I am concerned that there might be some unexpected things pop up that hold back the power and FOY will want another day with the car to tweak it and re-test it. I still might go down regardless to watch it be Dyno'ed.
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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
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Twinn
Newbie Joined: 21 February 2012 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 45 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 October 2012 at 7:16pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Feel excited for you. Hoping to see some pictures and hear the results.
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Twinn
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 November 2012 at 12:13pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Any updates on the Fiero, everything sounds silent over at Penncock's. Would like to know how this swap is turning out.
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 November 2012 at 3:09pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The car made one trip to the dyno, but the dyno was having issues that never got sorted out, and the car needed more tuning time. With me in the hospital for over a week, I was never able to get down to pick it up. I am resting at home now, and was going to make an attempt this week to go and get the car but doctors appointment today said I still have decreased breath sounds in my left lung. (whatever that means) I was still going to try and make the run, but Junior from FOY stepped in said that he did not want me to risk the drive, and is going to drive it the 230 miles up to the customs office for me and then all I have to do is pick it up from there. US/Canada customs is less than 10 miles from my house. I will try and get it on a different dyno up here to see what the results are. I should have the car back in my hands Wednesday Nov 21st.
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Capt Fiero
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 November 2012 at 3:15am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Capt Fiero
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Twinn
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 November 2012 at 5:15pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hoping everything works out for you. Hoping you can give an update on the car and how it was dealing with FOY. I currently thinking of send a car to him.
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Capt Fiero
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Well More Delays. I called them yesterday as I was hoping they would have the car to me on Wednesday, turns out the earliest they could get a dyno booked was Friday, they assure me it will be on the Dyno on Friday, they booked at 2 different dyno shops in case they have a problem with one.
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Capt Fiero
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 January 2013 at 12:12am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well since I last spoke, FOY has blown up another motor, and we are giving up on the dyno. He installed a 3rd motor with the cam and intake but left off the rocker supports. I finally got tired of looking at all my new parts, and decided to mock them up in the 88. WOW That Stereo is LOUD now. The new Monster Tach is great. I love the stereo and will be sad to remove it for COllector Plates.
So far I am really alive with this car. I am loving it. THis is a snipit from a tech post I just made. Installing an aftermarket tach. Man this was easy. Time consuming but easy. Pull all the bolts for the cluster to gain easy access to the clear connector on the right hand side. All 4 wires you need are there. 4 T-Taps and 4 male spade connectors then mount the tach and you are done. I stole this from PFF. All the wires you need are on C3- No not all PINK wires are switched power - Yes the Pink Black on pin 5 or pin 9 of C3 are switched power. The Sub box was thanks to Fire451 the head unit was Fry's Electronics, the Amp was EBay, 4500w, and the sub was Parts Express online. The tach I got from a (believe it or not) A baby swap forum that Lisa is on for 40 bucks and it works perfect. The box needs to go in another inch, but I am damn near going to need a porta power to push it in. I also need to replace the temporary 7mm screws that I used with some nice black screws as well as put some sort of grill over it. I also got my new monster tach installed yesterday. Too bad these parts are only temporary as all of it will be moved into my V8 when its done. ------------------ 857GT Part 85GT Part 87GT Part Caddy, 93 Eldorado 4.9, 5spd Dual O2 Custom Chip, Custom Exhaust. MSD Everything Now with Nitrous. Capt Fiero --- My Over View Cadero Pics Yellow 88GT 5spd Full Poly Suspension, Lowered 1/2" in front, Corner Carver. |
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Capt Fiero
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2013 at 2:08am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ok the End of this Thread. Well for now anyway.
I have my car back. New Delta Cam, Prototype intake, rebuilt front suspension with new tires, Northstar Throttle Body custom computer chip, and a Blown Main or Rod Bearing to go along with it all. I am so angry and pissed, its the fact that I can't be angry at anyone over it. He spent thousands of his money trying to get this build right, He is giving me roughly a 50% refund on the total build. So I am going to have $1200 to put aside to try and fix or replace this 4.9. The entire 15 page thread is over on Penncoks, if you want to read through. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/125304-15.html#lastpos t |
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Capt Fiero
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2013 at 11:50am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ok just quick update, FOY is on my unhappy Vendors list right now and as far as I know is closed down and bankrupt.
I got my car back with a bottom end knock, less than 5lbs of oil pressure at hot idle of 600rpms, a top end rattle that I believe to be from a broken rocker support beam, and engine bay damage that was the result of an engine bay fire while he was testing the car. I paid him for the custom parts and suspension work but took a refund of $1350 for the bad engine. He installed a total of 3 engines in the car and when the 3rd one proved to have gone bad in less than a week, I agreed to take my car back and go elsewhere with it. I took part of the refund and picked up some really nice Caddy Steel Rocker Supports from California. I had to buy used as there are no NEW ones left and GM has none left in stock anywhere. The price was fair at $170 landed to my door here in Oregon. I should be back in BC in Mid March and will start working on the 4.9 myself to get it in tip top shape. I also picked up a trailer hitch for the car so I can tow my trailer with the big bad V8. Well the only pics I have are of the rocker supports I bought so here they are. |
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Capt Fiero
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Capt Fiero
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Hey guys just wanted to say I have not given up on Fiero's, I still love em, and even in its crippled state I fired up the V8 and drove it around the back alley a few times. I had Tim take a video of it for me. (For those of you that don't know Tim's Fiero is no more. ICBCs first offer on the car was only 2000 he is going to ask for 3000 and hopefully get 2500 for it)
I know you guys had your meeting last night but this is what I was tinkering with. I did manage to find a wasps nest in it and they were really pissed one of them chased me down the driveway to sting me on the under side of my arm. No stinger just hurt like hell. A bit of Wasp / Hornet spray plus some After Bite for me and all was good) Now back to my car. I still don't know what the knock is, the car has a 350rpm idle speed which leaves the oil pressure cold at 20psi, hot is 5psi. The knock is a fast enough rap and intermittent enough to make me think its a wrist pin and not a main bearing. Either way I am going to drop the pan and see what I find. All I can do is hope for the best. Side note I am looking for a battery for my Goldwing, I really can't justify the $100 plus bucks for a new one, seeing as I don't even know how much riding I will be doing while I have my learners list. If one of you have a spare motor cycle battery that you figure will fire up a 1200cc bike, that you want to sell for a fair price let me know and we can compare part numbers. Well if you read this far, here is the good stuff, the Video...... My 4.9 with a Knock. Knocking Still trying to find out who's there |
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Capt Fiero
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Capt Fiero
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So I should just do a quick update to this thread, everything with the car has been back burnered while Lisa and I are trying to figure out mortgage stuff and finding a new more permanent place to live. With Shirleys passing we want out of this house. We think we have found a new home in Abby and are just waiting on Paperwork. So the car, as soon as we are moved in, I am going to order the Archie LS Swap Master Kit and I have found a few sources for the LQ4 6.0L V8. I have loved, learned and moved on from the Caddy Platform. Without extensive modification to the bottom end of the 4.9 Caddy motor it just won't handle the RPMs. So a new direction was chosen. I'll be selling off all the cu$tom parts from the 4.9 and installing an LS style motor. Depending on how I put the motor together, it will either be 300hp or 425hp. Which is still a ton more than the 4.9 just a bit less torque. I'll update this thread again when I get started. |
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2015 at 3:26pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Look forward to your follow ups on this build thread.
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Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
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Twinn
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 September 2015 at 12:00pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hey Capt can you give us any insight as to why you are choosing the LQ4 engine?
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Capt Fiero
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This is the LQ4 with what the builder says is a cheap $209 Turbo all stuffed into a Volvo yes a Volvo, and he is blowing away Lamborghini's and new Corvettes. The motor is used in many late model Chevy Pickups and even Suburbans. It is a 6.0 Liter aluminum head, Iron Block and can be built to run 1200-1500hp on the STOCK bottom end. I'll see if I can dig up the other great video of an 18 year old girl running an LQ4 in her Camaro, pulling down 9 second quarter miles at 154mph. (0-250kph in 9 seconds) Kicker is, the car is her daily driver, yes Daily driver. I won't be going that nuts, but a nice 500hp in a Fiero will be a LOT of fun. The motors can be had locally for 700-1200 Canadian funds depending on what you get with it. The turbo's are all over the map on price, but that video shows a Cheap $200 USD turbo. The only real costly bit is the full install kit from Archie at around $3000 USD. I have already spoken to him regarding his Master Build kit and having him go over the top and add me in an EVERYTHING kit, with full exhaust all accessories and well you name it. I want to get the engine myself get the kit from him and have NOTHING else to buy. When I did the 4.9 and even to a point 2.8 rebuilds I found myself chasing parts all over, trying to get this mount, or that bracket, or some obscure hose. In the 4.9 I got the mounts from one guy, the flywheel from a 2nd guy, got the exhaust via 3rd guy, misc parts came from Lordco, Napa, Alder Auto parts, Mopac Racing, and a ton more little places, it wasted so much time. We did the install in record time at 10 days start to finish, but if we have everything on hand, I'll bet we could have done it in 2 days. So when I do the LS swap, I want EVERYTHING. So the only thing holding me back is my energy level and time it takes to put things together. |
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Capt Fiero
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Capt Fiero
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Well Hmm, last month she hit the 8's in her Camaro with a 6.0 liter Truck Block. Her Turbo setup is NOT CHEAP, probably $3000 in Turbo stuff, but again the stock block. With just upgraded internals. Seems like everyone in the LS community is talking about these motors. They may be called LQ4's but they fall under the LS umbrella, since they use an LS Block and LS Style heads, just a different intake and Oil Pan.
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Capt Fiero
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The LQ4 is a truck motor. the difference between the truck and the LS motor is the truck motors are iron blocks and the LS motors are all aluminum blocks 70 pounds heave, the head are almost the same the LS head are a better.But the truck motors will take more horse power and abuse to the LS motors.There are guy taking stock bottom end LQ4's and putting cams head work and turbos and making 1000 hp and still driving it daily.I'm putting a 2000 LQ4 and a 4l60e trans in my 77 Trans am.Thats why i haven't been doing anything with my 85 gt 3400 swap just sitting in the back yard.
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