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    Posted: 18 February 2012 at 12:57pm
Hey guys, so went for a drive in my Fiero today( standard
is going pretty good!). But my dad and I noticed a few
issues... we were driving when suddenly we heard this
squealing coming from the front end. We popped the hood,
and radiator fluid is spewing from the over-flow, and steam
coming out. The radiator fan seems to not be working, and
is causing it to get too hot, I think.

Any ideas how to fix this?

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Another problem.. I was in the parking lot, about to practice starting. I go to put it into first, can't get it
in. Weird, so I put it into neutral and try again, still
nothing. My dad hops in, and for some reason can get it in,
but I'm 100% convinced I'm not THAT bad at shifting!

After doing some reading and seeing similar problems, I
think the clutch is not disengaging. I'm going to check if
my clutch is an inch above my brake pedal to make sure it's
not bent, but after that I'm at a loss, and really don't
know what to do, or how to fix it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2012 at 8:21am
Fan: do you have a/c?  If so, turn it on, and your fan will kick in - that at least confirms that most of the wiring is intact.  After that, the most likely suspect is the temp sensor in the manifold (there's 5 of them in total BTW, so get back to us).

Clutch: You might have got some air in the system (after an overheat, you can sometimes boil the clutch fluid!).  Step on the pedal, and have dad measure the throw of the slave under the hood (just put a tape up to it, then step on the pedal).  You need about 1".  Any less than about 7/8" on a 4spd, you won't be shifting.

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Alright thanks, I'll do that today. Though, my car is a
5spd, does that change anything?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2012 at 12:55pm
Unless it's an Isuzu (normally only found on a 4cyl car), the Getrag (which you've got) and Muncie (4spd) will both have the same throw.



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Alright, thanks. I'll go measure that sometime today.

On another note, my e-brake is not working. The shop
quoted me quite the number to get it fixed as they
couldn't find parts(found what I think is the whole
assembly in 5min of searching). Is this all I'd need to
give them?

84-87 FRONT E-BRAKE CABLE
84-87 REAR DRIVER'S SIDE E-BRAKE CABLE
84-87 REAR PASSENGER'S SIDE E-BRAKE CABLE
84-88 E-BRAKE EQUALIZER (ADJUSTER)
84-88 USED PARKING BRAKE LEVER
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2012 at 1:22pm
Uh...  heard the term "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"?  ;)

Figure out exactly what is damaged - replace it.  If you get in the habit of carpet bombing small problems, you'll have a $50K Fiero in no time flat.

This could get REALLY wordy... 
I'm gone about 3pm, but I can talk you through it for a short bit.  604-318-8742


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Ahh, I was thinking about that. The mechanic never told
us anything besides the lever had somewhat broken.

I guess I'll look into it, and see how much we can do
ourselves, you make a very valid point.

And the best way to learn to is to do it myself... here
goes nothing!


Note: Drove the fiero again around the block a few times,
clutch wasn't disengaging at all, and seemed totally
fine. Perhaps it was my sloppy driving yesterday, but
I'll leave that be for now, unless it gets worse.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Romeo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2012 at 8:57pm
E-Brakes seem to rarely work on Fieros, from what I hear. Do as the good Doctor says: Identify precisely what isn't working and replace that part. As for cooling, you said you were driving around when it overheated. If you were moving, it wouldn't be the fan, I'd look at other components.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stevenr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2012 at 9:49pm
Will do on the e-brake front.

I was driving quite a bit today, no issues. Could all of
the starting and stopping, stalling etc be the cause as a
result of my rough driving?
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Hello SteveR,

Great to see a young newbie like myself in these forums (I'm 20!)! When I bought my Fiero last year, I encountered very similar if not the EXACT same problem relating to the overheating issue. You probably should get a radiator temp switch from the Rodney Dickmans store as a solution if you managed to check to see if your fan does work by following Dr. Fiero's steps.

In the mean time though,  and I have been using this to help me out: just simply use your A/C controls provided that your Fiero is A/C. You should always check your temp gage occasionally, and once you see it hits half way during a drive, just turn on the normal setting or maximum (the latter should be used if the temp is more than half way) for A/C. Think it as a manual switch directly hooked to the fan, but just way more easier, and less complicated.

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I actually don't have AC, as it turns out.

I think it may have been the rough driving as I was
learning, as it hasn't happened again.

Though the clutch problem has re-appeared again, though
only once or twice. It fixes itself when I restart the
vehicle. I guess I'll live with it until it becomes a
little bit more troublesome.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dawg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 February 2012 at 10:21pm
The bottom line here folks is the car should NEVER overheat if it's in
good shape. So do yourself a favour and get it dealt with. These
cars can be such a joy to own as long as you stay on top of issues like
this.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stevenr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 February 2012 at 9:34pm
Does the anti-freeze bubbling out of the over-flow count as
over-heating, or is over-heating usually referring to
engine related problems?

If the temperature get's remotely close to what it was that
day, I'll deal with it.

I'm thinking of getting aftermarket pedals, so if that
doesn't fix the issue of the clutch not disengaging, then
I'll look more deep into that as well. But for now, with my
limited funds, even driving it is fun
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A little overflow is ok as long as the temperature is normal. If the
temp is really high when this happens then you have a problem.
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The temperature wasn't REALLY high, but I'll keep watching
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