Well as most people will attest I, have a certain preference to more cylinders, but, I do have some info for you.

OK in the early 80's GM thought hey, we need to save energy, and money and on bench testing they found 2qt of oil was enough for the duke, even ran at high rpms, so thought add an extra qt and it would be fine.  However for some reason, they neglected to talk to the real car guys and take into account people were going to drive the hell out of these cars in the corners.   So once the guys that there new fancy sports cars out on the race track, err, there daily commute to work, 3qts MIGHT be fine, but let your oil run a little low, then go deep into a sweeping corner, the oil in the pan would slosh to one side, starve the pump and BOOM goes your engine in your brand new car.   

Now add to the fact that when GM was building these motors, they actually received a bad shipment of connecting rods to there plant, causing them to be artificial weak.   

There were a LOT of dealers replacing a LOT of 2.5 Fiero engines in a real quick hurry. 

Now you might say BUT HEY this is the Indy Fiero,  sorry guys, the production INDY had the same engine and power as the base model 84 car.  The Indy package was cosmetic only.  Albeit a really nice package, Lisa would almost give anything for a set of nice factory RED Indy seats.

First thing you need to do is drain the oil, clean the dipstick, and re-fill with 3qts.  Check dipstick, if it says full, you have the pre recall dipstick and it is wrong, now add a 4th qt and re-check, if you confirm that you are now overfull, then you know for sure you have the wrong dipstick.  If however you don't see much difference, you next bet is to get out to a club meeting and find other 4cyl owners, and very latterly check dipsticks, unless you can find the measurements online.

84 Indy wrote: this car is mint

84 Indy wrote: $2200 has new clutch and tires

If this Indy really is "mint", buy it. Perhaps offer $2000.

Just be careful when someone says a clutch or whatever is "new". I've looked at cars and have been told certain parts are "new" only to discover what they really meant was that they weren't the original parts.  In other words, these "new" parts were actually installed years ago!

Always ask to see receipts when someone selling a car says something is "new" on it.

     Well if you do buy this car or want a real 2nd opinion, I can dig up the info for Tony in the Calgary club, who has all the collector info regarding the Indy and has a Collector Indy, this is not just "nice" its IMHO better than what would have rolled off the assembly line new.

84 Indy wrote: i own my own shop and I replaced the clutch in this car myself

Seems to me these details were missing from your first couple of posts.

Almost every used car (with a manual tranny) is advertised as having a "new" clutch.

However, very few potential buyers have previously installed the clutch in a used car they're thinking of buying.

  OK, I think I am going to walk away in a dazed stupor while it looks like I am still intelligent?

          However, if I might ask, if you own a shop, in the lower mainland of BC, and are capable of working on Fiero's, competent to do the work, WHERE IN THE HECK HAVE YOU BEEN.......     We need name, address, rates, estimates, hours of slavery, err operation....... 

Capt Fiero wrote: in the lower mainland of BC

That was a big assumption!

Heh heh, I'm telling ya Dave, the forum software needs to allow members to post their location!

My location is mentioned over to the left, but that was due to divine intervention.

       Well I know the price has dropped drastically, this car is now in Campbell River (the city) on the island.    It WAS in very nice shape the last time I saw it.     V6 4spd.

http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=172&PN=1 - http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=172 &PN=1

Well Patrick you can ask all you want, however I don't have the ability to do that, and I don't belive Graeme can re-code it either.  

Having an extra cylnder in an engine would be nice too, but try making a V7 from a V6. 

Oh, I'm not blaming you, David. It just seems so odd that forum software wouldn't include something as basic as a place to mention a member's location.

[EDIT] Okay, there is a place to mention what country we're in, but how helpful is that?

Graeme wrote: This software isn't the newest version and so it doesn't have the most up to date items for it I guess.

Graeme, I'm just somewhat surprised that even the original version of any forum software wouldn't include a place for member's to indicate their location, other than "Canada". It just seems like such basic information!

With some forums, I suppose it wouldn't make any difference as all contact between posters is strictly over the 'net. However, with a car forum such as this one, our members actually get together (as you and I well know) to help each other with their cars and of course buy/sell parts and whole cars. We need to know which city each other resides!

I've seen it time and time again here where the assumption is made (by most of us at some time or another) that people posting in this forum are located in the Lower Mainland. Well, obviously that's not the case, and it would be great to nip this confusion in the bud with each member's location prominently displayed over on the left (or at least mentioned in their profile).

So yeah, it would be wonderful, Graeme, if at some point you could code that feature into the software. Thanks.

Graeme wrote: Patrick if it's that big of a deal to you then put it in your signature

Graeme, there's no need for me to put this information in my signature because it's already indicated below my avatar.

If nobody else agrees that knowing the location of other forum/club members would be helpful, then let's just forget about it.

very nice car

For $2000 you got an excellent deal.

"Telephone pole... Watch the pole!"

84 Indy wrote: my buddy thinks hes a comedian!

Sounded to me like he was genuinely concerned as opposed to just trying to be funny!