86 GT need advice
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Topic: 86 GT need advice
Posted By: ARTIC-1
Subject: 86 GT need advice
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 8:18pm
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Hello all,new guy here at this forum.thanks for the sign up.first off i have
allwas loved the FIERO,great little sports car.i had one new in 85- 2m4.now 24 years later i have anouther-86/GT-auto.i am an accomplished mechanic an have built top fuel ENG.anyhow i would like to know more about this year of FIERO,it has the 2.8 in it with the top end of the ENG apart!! short block no heads.not sure why it was taken apart in the first place?i org wanted to repower it but iam on a buddget,famly guy. NO CASH$$$ so i guess its going back togther as a 2.8. with all the mods out there a stock car will be ok for me.ive bought anouther Fiero 2.8 motor with a blown rod for $20 an will make one good motor out of the two them.a little porting on the heads will be in order i think.an whats up with the exhaust on this motor, small S/S manifolds? iam thinking of building somthing a little better than the stock ones that are on it,what do you think?i could even go as far as make them liquid cooled or air cooled out of ALUM.wouldn't be that hard for me to build that SYS.marine mechanic for over 25 years.an as for cooling them i wouldn't tye in to the ENG cooling SYS,make it self contained SYS.i know theres no room on this car for anouther rad but ill figger that out later.an was the 86 the year with the bad rods? if so new motor time,won't spend any time on this motor.allso i need rims for it,stock would be nice,anyone have a set let me know.sorry about the long post ill keep it short in the future.any help would be great. THANKS ------------- SNOW MAN 87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE 88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED |
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 8:28pm
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Welcome! The "bad rods" were in the duke 4-cyl engines in '84. Your idea for custom exhaust headers sounds interesting. Anything is better than what came on there from the factory! Check out the links in http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1546&PN=1 - This thread . Is the '86 GT you have the one that http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1359&PN=1 - Glenn in Walnut Grove/Langley was selling a few months ago?
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Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 8:41pm
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THANKS
IT wouldnt be hard to build an AIR cooled EXHOST for this car,any power you put in it could be done,you simply add a bigger jacket around the exsisting pipes, like a heat shield then wrap it with insol if you like,then a scoop under the car to scoop up cool air,with it exiting out underneath sister to the pipes that are allreddy there,liquid cooled would take a lot more thought,but can be done.but i asure you i can do it. SNOW MAN ------------- SNOW MAN 87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE 88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED |
Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 6:22am
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Having rebuilt about 100 2.8's over the last 10 years or so I can tell you... they're not a budget build. Parts just aren't cheap for them. If you can do it all yourself (sounds like it), you'll come in very close on a stock 4.9 AUTO swap IF you have access to cheap/free parts. Buy a whole 91/2/3 caddy that was wrapped around a pole or something. Build your own mounts, do your own exhaust, etc, etc.... you'd probably be on par with rebuilding a stock 2.8. Sick eh? |
Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:52pm
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HI GUYS
Yea i bought Glenn in Walnut Grove/Langley,i wanted an loaded car an this one is loaded,but its auto,a 6 speed would have bin nice.so you think a re power is the way to go ah,a 4.9 caddy is the motor is the one to get.my first thought was a Buick 3800 supercharged.it looks like an easy install allso.i live out in the valley so pick a part allwas has cheap motors.you just have to be there at the right time befor everything gets robed from it.ive found rims for my car so i don't need them now.allso i talked to a guy in Langley that has #2 86/87 GTs that he wants to sell for $300 each,one with papers one with out an a extra 2.8 motor,there both runners.would like to have a parts car but can't aford it at this time.thanks for the advise on the motor,will prob end up with new power.has anyone seen this-4.9-diesel Pontiac Fiero.-http://eerc.ra.utk.edu/etcfc/pix/04/RickM/Rick+Fiero. JPG http://eerc.ra.utk.edu/etcfc/biodieselbrigade.html thanks SNOW MAN ------------- SNOW MAN 87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE 88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED |
Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 19 October 2009 at 9:40pm
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HI ALL
Did a little work on my car tonight,started to tear down the parts motor.ive worked on 173s V6 before,but this is a new ballgame.what i need most of all is the heads an exhaust manafolds.how does the fule rail under the intake come off,i just popped it out,but it was hard in there.any advise would be grate,got the exhaust manafolds off without braking any bolts off in the head,yea.O yea i found your page on all the specs for the motor,thanks so much for it,that makes it easy to reassmbl. SNOW MAN ------------- SNOW MAN 87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE 88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED |
Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 9:52pm
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PICK A PART DEALS!!!!
in Chilliwack has cheep parts-whole ENG-$125-TRANSMISSIONS $49 heres the link. http://www.pickapart.ca/specials.php vehicle search http://parts.pickapart.ca/ ------------- SNOW MAN 87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE 88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 6:24am
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Gotta love Pick-A-Part I have seen them sell 32v Northstar motors for the $125 price tag. (Thats a $3000 engine depending on where you go) They use to sell Turbos for I think $25 and always meant to grab one. They even sell the Getrag 5spds for next to nothing. If that 88 GT is still there that would be a good grab. If you are trying to put a 2.8 together, but a junked one and at the least use it as a map to build your first one. Sorry I can't be much help at the moment, but thanks for the heads up on the sale, I am sure a few guys on here will be able to take advantage of it. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |