Testing video player
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Topic: Testing video player
Posted By: Graeme
Subject: Testing video player
Date Posted: 19 October 2009 at 11:26pm
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 19 October 2009 at 11:36pm
Adding video is possible now with the following:
Just change the curly braces { } to straight ones [ ] in the code above. The URL in the code there is to point to where your video file is. Please keep in mind that this is a work in progress! I'll let you know when I have it perfect. On that note, mpeg4 (mpg and mov) files will work, so will FLV and F4V files. WMV files will not work at all. Please feel free to test here and I'll take a look at the results and change as needed. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 11:07am
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Am I doing something wrong here? This is the low res version of the "Bondo Boys" video. When I try to use the hi res version, nothing at all plays back. I can see some promise though!
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 11:14am
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OK, should be better now. For some reason the buffering bar doesn't stop going.. I'll probably change this player later to be a bit more customized, this is a test of not only flash but of the code I changed in the forum to allow users to put video in their posts easily. As for the higher resolution version, I expect that the encoding doesn't match what Flash can play. I'll try to dig up some specs on it. Generally though it should be encoded in H264 as either a MOV or MPG file. Or FLV files of course. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 11:43am
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Is there a way not to have the player controls on top of the video? In regards to the hi res version not playing back, it was compressed with the same H264 encoder, just at a much higher bitrate. Both the low and hi res versions of the video are MP4 files. [EDIT] Graeme, as I said to you in my PM, the page locks up at first, but it turns out that after awhile it "unlocks". As you can see though, only the first couple of seconds play back before the video stops playing. [EDIT - Oct 21] I've removed the http://www.captfiero.com/videos/Patrick/Bondo_Boys_high_res.mp4 - hi res video because it basically locks up one of my computers when I try to access this page. Obviously it's not suitable in a "streaming" video situation with it's way-too-high bitrate. Is there perhaps a problem with high bitrate videos being able to play back with this player?
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 12:45pm
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Well, the first couple of seconds only play because it's a big huge file and is taking a while to download. It's too high of a bit rate. It's best to use a more web friendly encoding setting. The file plays fine if you give it time to download. As for why your page locks up.. I don't know. Mine here was fine. I can change the player so that the video controls show up below the video. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 1:02pm
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Okay, I guess I can do some experiments then with different bitrates to see what looks good, downloads quickly, and plays back smoothly. I find the low res version of the "Bondo Boys" video to be a bit too pixelated, even in the small player window. I'll try a slightly higher bitrate later.
That would be great. Thanks.
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Graeme wrote:Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 1:18pm
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Hm Ok this is a Video Car-2-Lo asked me to post, lets see if I can do this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNjHrUFpnbc - |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 1:19pm
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Hmm, I guess it would help if I had adobe flash player installed, BRB
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 1:24pm
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Ugh I don't have time to play. I got to get back to work on Nigels car. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 1:59pm
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Dave, all you're doing is putting a link on the page. That doesn't trigger the code to put the video player in the post. When you get a moment, just go over my instructions briefly. Essentially we need the link to the FLV file that youtube makes.. not sure if that can be done though. Nice vid John.  |
Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 20 October 2009 at 2:00pm
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Patrick, what are the settings you used for that high res version? What are the settings you used for the low res version? |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 1:37pm
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Graeme, here's the info as supplied by http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ - GSpot . Bondo_Boys_low_res.mp4 10.5 MB (10,850 KB / 11,110,426 bytes) Container Video Audio
168 MB (172,976 KB / 177,128,349 bytes) Container Video Audio
I hope that's helpful.
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 1:45pm
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Video: 6021 kbps Audio : 256 kbps Thanks Patrick, that does help. Unfortunately these aren't web friendly at all. You'll need to keep it between 500 and 1000 TOTAL to make for a relatively nice download. 6277 Kbps is extremely high and should be reserved for a locally played file only. Hopefully that helps a bit for future encoding.  |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 2:31pm
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Oh, I agree completely. That http://www.captfiero.com/videos/Patrick/Bondo_Boys_high_res.mp4 - hi res version was never meant for "streaming". It was more for anyone who might be interested in watching the video in a much larger window. They could download it from the club's server and then play the video full screen on their computer monitor. As I stated earlier though, I find the low res version I did to be a bit too pixelated, so I'll have to find a happy medium using the bitrates you've suggested with future videos. Eventually this will all work out!
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 3:33pm
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Just a side note. Android OS phones for some reason can't view the
player however if I click the you tube link it opens and plays. I am posting this from my phone. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 4:20pm
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I'd have to see it but I don't think your phone has the flash player,
maybe just a YouTube player like the iPhone has. If it does have the flash player then it's probably the mobile version which isn't high enough at the moment to play the video |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 12:56am
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Graeme, I see that you've posted "Cruising With John Carlo" http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?FID=15&TID=133&PN=1&get=last - Here . It's great that it can play back at it's native (720x480) size. I also see that the video control panel can now be made to disappear. I just sort of accidently stumbled across this. I also wanted to ask about the bitrate that I used when encoding that video. Do you agree that the bitrate of 1000 for the video and 224 for the audio (for a total of 1224) seems to work fine with the streaming and the player? If so, I think I'll stick with those settings.
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However, it's unclear to me what the "proper" method is to control it's viewability?Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:01am
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This is really weird. Graeme, how is it that "Cruising With John Carlo" is now playing in my post above even though the link is still to the "Bondo Boys" video?
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:01am
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If you mouse over it, the controls should appear. Mouse off and they go away. That's a high bitrate as I mentioned earlier. It's up to you though, streams slow but fine for me being that I have a high end computer. Most likely is a completely different experience for others. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:07am
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I can make the controls appear by "mousing over" the video, but to get the controls off the window I have to click and "drag".
I'm able to have the video stream and play back smoothly on a 1200 MHz computer. If it plays back fine on that, I think we're golden.
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:09am
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Capts wanders through, hey guys. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:12am
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Greetings, everyone is welcome here.
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:13am
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On a side note, if you keep posting huge videos on one page then when people visit it's going to suck up their bandwidth and in turn also take the video a long time to download. I've deleted your quote as there is no reason to put the same video twice on one page. I don't know why it's grabbing the wrong video. |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:14am
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Just a side not, a computers ability to stream and playback streamed video has way more to do with there internet connection and video card than the speed of there CPU. If you guys already brought it up, and I simply missed it, or it just blew over my head with a big whoosh. Just ignore me. I've been sitting at the hospital with Lisa since 3pm. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:19am
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Not trying to pry, but is Lisa okay?
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:19am
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On both sides, ya too big of a video for forum playback is just a bit of a waste, and Graeme, couldn't we just dissable auto load so the videos won't load or attempt to load until someone clicks it. I know it would take the user a bit longer to buffer the content, so it would be a juggling act on which way to go, however just a thought. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:19am
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Not necessarily Dave. The decoding process within the Flash player is directly linked to the memory and CPU of the computer. You're thinking of video games and possibly native video players. Patrick, why did you bother asking me what I think if you're just going to ignore it anyways? It's up to you what you want to encode videos at but I'm giving you my advice from experience of working with web applications and video for the last 7 years. I personally don't care at all because my computer runs it great. I'm sure lots of others will be good too so until a complaint comes in then let's keep the bitrate high. |
Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:21am
Yes, I was just working on it now to disable auto load. Especially with huge files getting posted, some people may have already seen the video and just want to come back to see the comments etc, they shouldn't have to put up with downloading 1200Kbps when they may be quite busy doing something else like downloading torrents 
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:25am
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I like that idea. I actually thought that was the way it normally worked.
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:36am
| Video player has been to set to not auto load and the loading in the wrong video is fixed too. |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:57am
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LOL, at the torrents comment. I thought everyone had a dedicated home network and computer for torrent traffic. P.S. I found me some English Toffee Coffee, that ought to keep me awake for a while. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 25 October 2009 at 12:30am
Today I tweaked iMove on "youTube" and deleted old link shown above. Question: How do I make direct link by clicking on the link to "youTube" (it's not working for me) ? Here's new link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv4QCQVlkeM |
Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 25 October 2009 at 12:41pm
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It should do it automatically but that will depend on the browser you are using. If it doesn't then you just use the javascript openWin'forum_codes.asp','codes','toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=1,resizable=1,width=550,height=400' - Forum Codes to get what you want. |
Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 25 October 2009 at 2:31pm
Thanks, but direct links only work automatically on my emails, when I copy link here and paste, it doesn't want to work! 
Anyway, what is a "browser" would that be Patrick ? 
This what link looks like here 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv4QCQVlkeM If anyone want to help and post this link on my build thread that would be great ?
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Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 25 October 2009 at 7:29pm
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Gina helped me figure this one out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv4QCQVlkeM - mylink http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv4QCQVlkeM - http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=Wv4QCQVlkeM Just playing with Form Codes!
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 31 January 2010 at 6:47pm
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