I don't believe fencerenu is a "troll" in the classic sense of the term, nor do I think he purposely came here to mess up our forum, but having said that he does appear to have some issues.

I say give him a second chance. If he behaves himself, fine. If not... get him outta here.

I don't think this should be a "secret" ballot.

People who vote on whether or not to turf someone from our forum should also have the balls to explain their position.

But that's just my opinion.

In review of his actions (two posts created and deleted), I say no...and if one has many issues and warnings in other forums, why allow the opportunity to mess ours up?.

I am an admin with other forums and managing peeps like this takes time and energy.

I've received a PM from Fencerenu (I wish he had a real name!) at Pennock's, and he's given me permission to post it here in our forum. So here it is...

Fencerenu wrote: Hey Patrick, I hope you have a nice weekend. I DID get bullied out of Pennock's, but I suspect I was being a baby... and then I was on your site and it was all good... and I was excited about Clynt's car at first and then the photoshop of Johnny's... man they were awesome... and then I started thinking that I was going to look like a copier rather than an innovator and (for good or bad) I decided that I wanted my build thread deleted and would post it all at once after I was finished... So I made the mess. Sorry about that. When I read that it was all staged, I literally LOLd. That was a good one. :-) I hope you guys understand that I meant no disrespect in your forum, I did not call names, I didn't use foul language, I didn't threaten anybody... I just turned some messages to rubbish so that I could be the first one to implement my ideas in one unique awesome Fiero. Feel free to publish this PM on your site, as I was banned yesterday from even logging in. My email address is fencerenu@gmail.com in case you want to email me or in case anybody else does. Or anybody can PM me here on Pennock's, too. I know that I have posted with zeal, but I just can't help the enthusiasm I have for this project. I'm on these forums looking at pictures seriously like 20 times a day. I hope it dies down to a moderate level, but it's just so much fun for me right now to have this blank slate on which I can implement so many changes in order to make it my "own" design... something unique. A head turner like Johnny's or Clynt's. As for an update. My top is chopped 3 inches and welded back together. The sails are GONE (for good) and that area is covered by metal mesh covered by fiberglass. The door window area top and bottom angled that you saw on the mockup I made of Clynt's car are implemented and now I have to finish those areas nicely and then I can work on the vents (not big, huge, awkward scoops) to direct area behind each sail area into the engine for cooling purposes. Those vents will angle toward the center of the back of the car like on the Lotus Turbo Esprit. I have to go this morning to buy a new bumper and nose that I am getting from craigslist, so I can modify them to my liking and then change them out on this car. I'm very meek and shy away from arguments and am an easy target for bullies because I'm so nice and refuse to curse and shout and pretend to be a tough guy. I'm just nice. Anyway sorry for rambling. I hope you have a great weekend.

For anyone who hasn't seen the thread at Pennock's where the "staged" event was discussed, perhaps have a look at it http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/083052.html - Here . It'll be educational for Tristan to read it as well.

Matt wrote: When you've only got one boat, any and all boat-rockers should be turfed. Unless everyone is ready to get wet once in a while.

Kinda the way I see it...lol

I'll welcome you back under one condition... State your real (first) name at the bottom of your posts!

I'm tired of referring to you as Fencerenu.

fencerenu wrote: being a family member here.  I like this place.

I have never been much for crowds and clubs in my past but I can say this is a great bunch of guys - all willing to lend a hand or provide helpful feedback/info.    Just need to weed through all the steer manure (nicer words and no names.)    All joking aside, even being a new member I can say I am proud to be a part (what little it is at this point) of it all.

fencerenu wrote: Tre

Welcome back, Tre.

Looks like some jokester (I could've used another term) is trying to be "funny" by voting repeatedly. (Yeah, it's easy to beat the system.) Nice try loser!

Patrick wrote: Looks like some jokester (I could've used another term) is trying to be "funny" by voting repeatedly. (Yeah, it's easy to beat the system.) Nice try loser!

Not cool whoever did that