TIRES
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Topic: TIRES
Posted By: crusty
Subject: TIRES
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 9:20am
I was talking to Bassman when last in BC about tyto 888 tires for my 88.When running in B-ham last Sat I was thalking to several folks at the track and their input was
1.I could not use the 888 as a daily driver even with my super limited milage I plan for this car because they have a do not ever expose them to temps below 40 degrees F.they store theirs in the house during winter.I felt sure Bassman was using them on the street but did not ask about the cold or is that all just BS.It will be in a garage but not heated.
2.it looked like the 888 specks show my front wheels which are 6 in wide are 1/2 inch too narrow.for the 225/45zr15 that you are running on the front.Is you front wheel in fact 6 in wide?
3. some of them were touting the Dunlop Direzza sport Z1 Star Spec.as being almost as good as the 888 on the dry but better in the wet and would last 10 times longer and not have the cold restrictions.agine I sure like the way your car handles and you are living with it so what do you think.I need to run the tires I drive to the track because I cant change them with my bad hands or bring two cars to BC.
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 12:18pm
I can answer some of your questions.
The '88s are the only year to come with 6" wide front wheels and 7" wide rear wheels.
I agree that the 888 is not the best choice if you want to drive the car during colder temps and that a slightly less sticky street tire would be better for that. The only issue with these stickier tires is that the overall diameter is always going to be smaller than the stock tires. This applies to the 14" and 15" tires only.
I think you have about 6 different tires to choose from then, unless you're OK with something less sticky (going from the original tires to any modern tire will be a huge improvement regardless). http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/top-tires/ - Here is a nice article which might help you choose what tire to buy.
------------- 88 Formula 5 speed
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 12:29pm
Charles, at the club meeting on Saturday, a club member attended with an '88 Formula equipped with GT lace wheels from an earlier year (much like you had thought of doing). The wheels were 7" wide front and back. Yes, if you knew what to look for, the front wheels stuck out a little bit. But heck, it wasn't too bad at all.
Just mentioning this in case your 6" wide front wheels are a problem with the tires you eventually wish to buy.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 12:59pm
Hi Charles,
The Toyo R888 can be a daily driver tire, many who can afford this do drive them...I don't as I mainly drive to performance driving events, and I do store my sets of tires in my basement, 30 psi and in a warm dry area...I store my car with my Enkei's which are on now, 2 weeks left and the car in away for the winter
------------- Brian (Bassman)
86 GT Fastback 3.2L
2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive
[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png">
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Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 5:41pm
Just wanted to ask if anyone has run #245/15" on the front of a Fiero. or are they to wide to work.thanks
------------- SNOW MAN
87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE
88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 10:03pm
ARTIC-1 wrote:
Just wanted to ask if anyone has run #245/15" on the front of a Fiero. or are they to wide to work.thanks
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I'm not sure, but it doesn't look there are very much, if any, tires available in that size today.
Charles, if you want more options for tires I do happen to have a set of 16x7" rims that I don't want anymore. There are way more tires to choose from that'll fit those rims.
------------- 88 Formula 5 speed
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 15 September 2011 at 9:08am
ARTIC-1
Yes I am interested,which design are they.
Thank You Charles
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 16 September 2011 at 11:48pm
crusty wrote:
ARTIC-1
Yes I am interested, which design are they? |
Charles, if it's the wheels you're interested in, it might be Colby (Cheese) whose attention you're actually after!
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Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 17 September 2011 at 10:26am
I was just asking if anyone has run that style of tire on the front of a Fiero,Some people have put up to #265-15" on the back,but iam not sure if the 245/15" if they will work on the front with out hiting the wheel well on the inside when your hard over on the wheel one way or the other.i had 4 given to me by a friend,they have a vary wide foot-1/2" wider than the 215s that are on my Fiero now.everything else looks like it will fit ok.they look like this.
XT Renegade 245/60 R15 100T RWL
------------- SNOW MAN
87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE
88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 17 September 2011 at 2:10pm
ARTIC-1 wrote:
I was just asking if anyone has run that style of tire on the front of a Fiero,Some people have put up to #265-15" on the back,but iam not sure if the 245/15" if they will work on the front with out hiting the wheel well on the inside when your hard over on the wheel one way or the other.i had 4 given to me by a friend,they have a vary wide foot-1/2" wider than the 215s that are on my Fiero now.everything else looks like it will fit ok. |
Well I have seen Fieros with 245's on the front, but not that size on stock rims. Those 245/60R15 tires are going to be a fair bit taller than stock though, and that may be an issue.
------------- 88 Formula 5 speed
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 8:49am
Thanks to everyone for being so helpfull,
Snowman are you considering selling these xt s,if so I am
intereste in trying them out. please call me at 360-393-
2368 anytime.
Thank You agine
Crusty/Charles
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 8:57am
Charles...what tire you want to buy?...if your thinking those XT's DON'T!!!...not a good tire, and I think Artic was asking about size.
If you was a autoX tire there are only a few to choose from, or a low treadware tire under 180 that you can still enjoy and drive to and from with...this is not so much about size other than treadware and stickyness of the rubber
------------- Brian (Bassman)
86 GT Fastback 3.2L
2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive
[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png">
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:05am
THANKS
That is the help I need because I dont have time or money
to make big mistakes getting this car ready to play with.
Crusty
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:09am
I am going to reread the tire article that Cheese sent
me.Ijust dont wont to choose wrong.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:14am
Charles, I am running out the door to get to the Terry Fox Run, get out all:)...
So quick links and can chat more later:
http://toyotires.com/tires/competition-tires - http://toyotires.com/tires/competition-tires
R888 or R1's
http://www.kumhotire.ca/ecstaracing/ecsta_edge.php - http://www.kumhotire.ca/ecstaracing/ecsta_edge.php
KUHMO has this page on their site that is VERY helpful for autoX tires and choices
http://www.hoosiertire.com/default.htm - http://www.hoosiertire.com/default.htm
Great tires...look for the A6's...but unless you trailer and change onsite, cannot drive to and from...same as the KUHMO V700 or V710
http://www.hankooktire.ca/Main/default.aspx - http://www.hankooktire.ca/Main/default.aspx
Look up the V12 Evo...Great daily driver tire and would be a nice choice for you...Colby, what was the other tire you posted?.
Check out also:
http://www.tirerack.com/ - http://www.tirerack.com/
http://www.1010tires.com/ - http://www.1010tires.com/
Cheers
------------- Brian (Bassman)
86 GT Fastback 3.2L
2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive
[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png">
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 12:10pm
The Hankook tire I posted was http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+Z214 - this one . Probably not appropriate to be driven on the street for too long.
Hankook also has the http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+R-S3 - R-S3 , which seems to be good value for what it is. Unfortuanately it looks like the only 15" size they have, 225/45R15, won't fit on the front of an '88.
------------- 88 Formula 5 speed
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 9:03am
Thanks agine
would it work if I put 7in rims on the front.Would it clear the fenders?
Charles
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 9:05am
I think that is what bassman does but it is an 86 and I dont know how that changes things in the front
Charles
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 10:31am
crusty wrote:
would it work if I put 7in rims on the front. Would it clear the fenders? |
From a few days ago...
Patrick wrote:
Charles, at the club meeting on Saturday, a club member attended with an '88 Formula equipped with GT lace wheels from an earlier year (much like you had thought of doing). The wheels were 7" wide front and back. Yes, if you knew what to look for, the front wheels stuck out a little bit. But heck, it wasn't too bad at all.
Just mentioning this in case your 6" wide front wheels are a problem with the tires you eventually wish to buy. |
It's not the perfect solution, but yes, it works.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 10:39am
I am using my OEM Fiero Rims, 15's with 225/45/15 tread all around...if you want to stagger, this will cost you more in the long run, I HIGHLY suggest being social racers to have all the same sizes so you can rotate.
------------- Brian (Bassman)
86 GT Fastback 3.2L
2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive
[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png">
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 12:43pm
good point Bassman
Thanks Charles
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 3:14pm
Bassman wrote:
I am using my OEM Fiero Rims, 15's with 225/45/15 tread all around...if you want to stagger, this will cost you more in the long run, I HIGHLY suggest being social racers to have all the same sizes so you can rotate. | Oh god, I used to have staggered, directional tires. If one wore out, the set was essentially a wash. It was awful.
------------- Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.
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Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 7:45pm
Crusty if you want the tires i have,you can have them for trade,all i need is 4 good tires for my car.whats on there now is unsafe to drive,even just on Sundays.i drive my car vary little! 4 used tires would be fine,use- not balled.LOL
------------- SNOW MAN
87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE
88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED
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Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 19 September 2011 at 8:58pm
Thanky you thank you.I will not drive it except to get
the fuel filter change on Wed.I Paid them extra to show
Shean how because I cant with my hands but i wont put
him/us in danger.The tires on it have lots of tread and
are probably safe in dry conditions They are 23 years
old.I am trying to buy wheels and then tires so we can
store the original wheels and tires on this car so Sean
may care about it and carry it into the future in its
original condition,I am not good with the computer but
dont wont to convey that we cant be safe but on the other
hand we need lots of help not to make mistakes along the
way,
Sean does not have his enhanced drivers license yet so he
cant come to BC yet,Thank You so much for your offer but
I will try not to endanger us,Thank you agine
PS when is the next autocross in BC?
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