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88 duke dies running rich (I think)

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Topic: 88 duke dies running rich (I think)
Posted By: DannyCanuck
Subject: 88 duke dies running rich (I think)
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 5:30pm
On my way home from work today my trusty duke decided to
die 1 block from home. I believe it is running rich to
the point of stalling, I could get it to idle at about
250-1500 rpm for about 5-15 sec before it would die
again. Hitting the gas made no appreciable difference.

I tried unplugging the MAP sensor which fixed the problem
for about 30 sec but now does nothing. It will no longer
start for today but will try to find out what the problem
is Saturday.

It is throwing a code but that might be
because I unplugged the MAP sensor.

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88 duke, bog standard



Replies:
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 9:18pm
hmmmm... fuel pump? or a relay for it?

i think there is a wire you can jump to test it.

good luck!

Gary


Posted By: DannyCanuck
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:05pm
I believe it is a mixture of the O2 being bad and now the
MAP dying. My brother and I got the car to run for a while
by unplugging them but when I tried to move it it would
stall.

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88 duke, bog standard


Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 3:33pm
well, good news then. the MAP is a ton easier to get to.  

there must be a spare somewhere here in the group that you could buy or use to test with. i am partial to a new O2 sensor though. sometimes they aren't worth the effort to remove from a car if they are seized in there...

don't forget to check the connectors..



Gary



Posted By: DannyCanuck
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 5:24pm
So the MAP sensor is not the direct problem however it is something to do with the MAP circuit because it will run
for a bit with the MAP unplugged but as soon as you plug it
in again it dies.

I tested the MAP connector and got 5 volts from connectors
A-C which is as it should be.

Is it possible the computer has kicked the bucket?

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88 duke, bog standard


Posted By: Rob N.
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 5:54pm
My old duke did exactly the same thing! replaced the o2 sensor & it ran just fine...


Posted By: DannyCanuck
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 7:55pm
I tried that as well. Didn't work.

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88 duke, bog standard


Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 8:52pm
There should not be -A/C-current  on a Fiero any where.
If there is,your bridge rectifier is gone in your alternator.
As far as i know,Fieros are 12V-DC.


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SNOW MAN

87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE

88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED


Posted By: DannyCanuck
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 4:19pm
The current is from the A pin to the C pin on the
connector, not A/C current.

A buddy of mine said that is might be the EGR or the Coolant temp sensor for the ECM, is that a possibility?

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88 duke, bog standard


Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 5:39pm
Coolant temp sensor is big one,check it.
allso the coil an pick up under the cap
 sorry about that A/C thing,if there were AC there
it would be not good thing.


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SNOW MAN

87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE

88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED


Posted By: DannyCanuck
Date Posted: 11 December 2012 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

hmmmm... fuel pump? or a relay for it?i
think there is a wire you can jump to test it. good
luck!Gary


Twas the fuel pump. It was working but not very well.

Gotta love a good mechanic.

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88 duke, bog standard


Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 12 December 2012 at 5:57pm
Glad you figured it out. Too bad it was the pump. Not a really fun
project.

Gary



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