Fiero - Ferrari 308 Rebody build
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Topic: Fiero - Ferrari 308 Rebody build
Posted By: Fiero308
Subject: Fiero - Ferrari 308 Rebody build
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 5:49pm
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I have always loved the appearance of the Ferrari 308 (made popular on the TV show Magnum PI) and even though the real thing can be purchased for $30,000 or so it is still a 20 year old car, is very unreliable, very expensive to maintain and with an output of 240hp or so can be beaten off the line nowadays by a lot of family sedans! Originally the plan was to build a kit car from scratch with Ferrari good looks but 2007 Corvette reliability and performance. While looking for a Fiero to build the kit on I found a completed car here in the lower mainland. It was a 1986 Fiero 2M6 that has been rebodied to look like a 1985 Ferrari 308 GTSi. I knew the car had a lot of problems right away but really I was just buying the kit. I purchased it in June of 2007 for $10500. |
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Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 6:59pm
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Here are the before photos
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Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 8:42pm
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The first order of business was to upgrade the mechanicals. After discussing things with Chris Zander who is now working at B&N hotrods http://bnhotrod.homestead.com/ - http://bnhotrod.homestead.com/ We decided to do the following
Engine and Transmission
GM zz383 crate motor http://www.gmhorsepower.com/ZZ_383.html - http://www.gmhorsepower.com/ZZ_383.html 6 speed transmission kit w/tranny Getrag modified cable 4 speed shifter assy Getrag cable Distributor Fuel pump
Brakes and Suspension
Front: Sport front suspension Shocks Hal adjustable 1" swaybar Spanner wrench 13" Willwood Brake kit http://www.pfyc.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=VT4022&Category_Code=C6SUSP&Affiliate=froogle - http://www.pfyc.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product _Code=VT4022&Category_Code=C6SUSP&Affiliate=froogle
Rear: Koni coilover kit Bump steer correction 1 ¼" rear swaybar Swaybar end link and sad 13" Willwood Brake
Wheels and tires
So I dropped the car off December 2007
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Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 8:58pm
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So here is the work done as of December 14th 2007
Dash and center console removed
Empty engine bay
Painting and prepping the engine bay and all these really cool toys ready to be installed
New battery and tray installed in the front compartment
That is pretty much it for now. Chris tells me he is still waiting for some more parts to be delivered from V8 Archie and we are discussing what to do with the interior. Happy Christmas to everyone and I'll update the thread as things progress |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 12:42pm
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This car is going to be nearly insain. Oh I can't wait to see, hear and be a passanger in the car for a boot. I have ridden in 3800SC cars, 5.7 TPI V8 cars Ecotec swap cars, however this one is going to make all those cars look really slow. I would start budgeting now for speeding tickets. LOL :) ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Blair
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 6:02pm
| WOW, this should be interesting. |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 17 December 2007 at 10:01am
| Just to fix one typo Hugh your car is a 1986 not 1996 there is also solid cradle mounts in the car now and the engine bay insulation form west coast fiero and the tpi fuel injection unit that is a chorme unit from S&P (street and performance) |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 17 December 2007 at 1:21pm
| Thanks for the corrections Chris |
Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 17 December 2007 at 1:44pm
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I am totally speechless with this build.. What year of cradle are you using?? ------------- Johnny-B-Good 
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Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 17 December 2007 at 1:59pm
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The cradle is out of a 84 to 87 car that we bought from a member on the fourm |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 19 December 2007 at 10:05pm
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well the new alarm and 4 core radiator is in and we got another shipment from v8 Archie, so I will be starting to install the motor onto the cradle and then notching the frame to accept the 8" balancer and the transmission tomorrow.
Edit for Spelling, must have been tired working on the car so much. ------------- 
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Posted By: exoticse
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 10:36pm
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More, please ! |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 30 December 2007 at 4:37pm
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Sorry guys not much going on because of the holidays and all. I will be meeting (hopefully) with Michelle at B&N Hotrods to go over the plans for the interior. We will be installing the euro dash, center console and door panels from PISA http://pisafierohq.com/interiors/fiero_3-08/ - http://pisafierohq.com/interiors/fiero_3-08/ and probably use a Tan and Black colour scheme. The gauges are a bit of a problem right now I am looking at these Teleflex premier white gauges from http://www.haneline.com/ - http://www.haneline.com/ I am not sure I am delighted with them. first I want the Speedo to be in km/hr with mph on the interior ring. If any one has any other gauges with a bit more "punch" let me know. More photos as things progress
Hugh |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 4:44pm
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Here is the interior before Chris got at it.....
That interior has now been removed and replaced with the fiberglass PISA kit.
Passenger door. Door panels in tan vinyl door arm rests in black vinyl.
Dash passenger side in black vinyl
Center console tan vinyl
Drivers side dash also in black vinyl The gauges are white face with red back light Teleflex Premier white http://www.haneline.com/ - http://www.haneline.com/
The seats will also be reupholstered in tan and so the journey continues..............
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 10:57am
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I am kinda partial to Black, but I am not sure if I have ever seen a Ferrari with Black interior. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 3:20pm
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Another week goes by and more work is done...........
Center console with Blaupunkt Memphis head unit in place
Glove compartment has connectors from head unit to USB and iPOD docks as well as a spare cigarette lighter.
Amp rack housing a Focal 5 channel amp and 1.2 ferrat cap
Battery charging posts to make for easy jump starts etc... you can also can see the back side of the battery disconnect switch in this picture
New cubby in trunk to house jack, jumping cables, tire wrench and tools
Picture of the cubby with the lid in place
Picture of rear Focal Utopia Beryllium speakers |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 4:22pm
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It's been a long week of wood work but I think that I finally have it to a point that I am happy with it. The amp rack has 2 doors in it one to access the washer fluid resevoir and the other to access the battey charging posts and all the resevoirs for the brakes and clutch.. Hopefully all the rest of the parts to finish the engine swap will show up this week and then the suspension and brake components will be showing up |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:01pm
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Hey Chris awesome work!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:20pm
| glad you like it so far, you should come down on friday to see it in person |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:40pm
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I should be able to get down there mid afternoon. I'll see you then Hugh |
Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 4:55pm
Today I dropped in at B&N hotrods...
Chris showing me a sneak peek of Hugh's 308 super car 
Mags in box 
ZZ383 with 6 speed 
Super sub 
B&N's super cool store... I ended up picking the red style oval mirrors and some other cool stuff there. (The mirrors would look great on Hugh's 308 too ?) ------------- Johnny-B-Good
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Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 3:54pm
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Hi Hugh, if you're still looking for short tips, the Corvette C6 tips are only 7.50" long and look great.
From... www.flowmastermufflers.com  ------------- Johnny-B-Good
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Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 8:33pm
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I have already ordered some from Rodney Dickman http://www.rodneydickman.com/retail_new.html - http://www.rodneydickman.com/retail_new.html
but thanks for the info Hugh |
Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 9:45pm
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Nice pipes, I see they wrap around the trunk, very cool. John ------------- Johnny-B-Good
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Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 10:07pm
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those pipes are really cool..... thks for the info and link ------------- Marcel 86SE V6 Auto 85SE V6 Auto 85 2m4 soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 31 January 2008 at 9:15pm
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woo hoo more toys are showing up tomarrow. we got the gagues and the custom valve covers in (Not posting pics of the covers that is up to Hugh to release if he wants) Tomarrow is the new suspension and brake setup, then we are only waiting for a few more items to show up in the mail... I am getting really excited about this car and it isn't even mine lol |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 1:35pm
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Here we go............ the build progresses....
The engine is in now we are waiting for the manifold and valve covers. I don't mind if you show them Chris
Coil over shocks mounted note stainless steel brake line and anti roll bar
Willwood 13" brake rotor with stock one for comparison
Brakes and suspension mounted
New gauges mounted
gauges close up
center console gauges
coolant tubes relocated into the fender well area
front 1 1/4" sway bar rear 1" sway bar
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 5:03pm
wow... 
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Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:58pm
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well things are starting to come along and aside from waiting for parts to show up it has all gone quite well for a project of this size, can't wait till I can see the finished product. It feels weird building my dream fiero but not getting to keep it in the end... LOL |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:41pm
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I just got the images tonight I'll add the captions later. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm I like shiny!!!
Front suspension and brakes
Air intake and injectors all chromed up.....
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 11:59pm
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Man this is looking great...and your not keeping it?... ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 9:19am
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I think you may have misunderstood the post. Chris is building the car at B and N Customs, for Hugh. I don't think Hugh has any plans of EVER selling the car. Chris is just so happy with the car, he does not want to let it go after he is done building it. (I would be the same way, 6spd 383sbc, drool, 425hp) , I think Hugh should take the car to a race track to learn how the car responds. Hugh I am kinda serious about that idea though, you might want to look into some "Track Days" so that you can go out with a professional driver to learn the car before you start using it as your daily driver. The relative short wheelbase and extreme torque that this motor is going to make, will the car much more exciting to drive. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 16 February 2008 at 11:33am
| Teh more you guys talk about the driver training the more worried I'm getting. No I was actually going to look into it in the Summer. |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 16 February 2008 at 11:53am
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Hey look at this my car is featured in a magazine!! You just have to squint a bit
here it is..............
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 February 2008 at 12:56am
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Thats Very Cool. From what I am hearing from Chris it sounds like they are getting at least one more Fiero in after yours. If we give them enough busniess maybe we can keep them working on at least Fiero at all times.
------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 9:30pm
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well the engine bay is pretty much done, engine is wired, fuel system is finished, cooling system is finished, going for exhaust next week and then I will let the beast come to life.... I think I will wear ear plugs and duct tape over my mouth to contain the smile.... lol Hugh should be posting pics of the completed engine bay soon... if you have a big monitor the wear sunglasses .lol |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 10:33pm
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Do they do body work also? ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 9:44am
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Here we go the beast is assembled and shiny.
Top view
side view I love teh matching red wiring
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Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 10:01am
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I cannot wait to see this in real life. The engine looks like a modern art sculpture!! |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 6:39pm
| it is nice in the photo's but it doesn't do it any justice, feel free to come and see it anytime |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 8:36pm
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I normally reserve this word for really hot women, however I think in this case that engine deserves it.
Simpley "Stunning". ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Blair
Date Posted: 21 February 2008 at 6:08am
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and s h i n y ! Can't wait to see it in person. |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 25 February 2008 at 8:15pm
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OK captions to follow later. Chris help me out here I can't tell what some of this stuff is.
Wheels and tires are on
New rims
Fiberglass center console all smooth and ready for upholstering
Center instrument cluster smoothed out
Dash panel ready for upholstery |
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 26 February 2008 at 2:29am
| For the love of everything beautiful.. more pictures!!!! |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 1:39am
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Forget the interior pics, I want to see more of the engine.
Have you fired it yet. Chris you have a decent Digi Cam right, when you do fire it, you have to get a video clip WITH sound. Oh I want to hear this bad boy fire up. I can almost smell the tire smoke already. Having driven my V8 Fiero and I know how much fun it can be, I can't wait to see this car go down the track at Mission. That big rear sway bar is really going to help keep the back stable. Hugh you are going to have one of the most fun cars in the lower mainland. You are also going to have to take it to a Dyno to have them set the tune for you. Hmm any room left in the budget for a set of M/T's for the back end. Hell if you go with 14" M/T's I would even donate a set of 14" Aluminum Rims. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 02 March 2008 at 1:03pm
| I went to see the car on Friday. It is at the muffler shop. I was hoping they would be ready to fire it up but they want to wait until all of the guages are hooked up. Excuse my ignorance but what are 14" M/T's? |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 02 March 2008 at 9:28pm
| unfortunatly this car will never be able to put 14" wheels on it, the minimum size that will fit is a 17" due to the enourmous brakes on it |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 02 March 2008 at 9:45pm
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M/T are Micky Thompson Drag Tires. The reason I said 14" is that the 14" Fiero wheels are the lightest wheels ever made for a Fiero and are as light as many race wheels. Lighter wheels equals faster speeds in a race.
------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Blair
Date Posted: 03 March 2008 at 6:10am
| It may be hard to get 14" rims on 13" brakes. :) |
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 7:14pm
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Here we go a new update on the build. An attempt was made to start the car but a vacuum problem was noted with the intake manifold. It is being sent back to the suppliers (probably a 2 week turnaround. The interior is coming along nicely.
Upholstered dash and guages installed
View from the drivers side
Passenger side view. Note the location of the subwoofer.
View rear of passenger compartment. Seats are being upholstered as we speak. As a great man once said "I think the end is near!!" |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 10:59pm
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car fired right up, sounds REALLY nice, have video but it kinda sucks so i will be posting video after we get the intake all sealed up and it purring like a LION
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Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 5:36pm
| Well I am supposed to get my car tomorrow. If I do and it runs i will bring it to the meeting on Saturday. Only 1 more sleep!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 7:12pm
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Looking really good...that's where I would like to relocate my sub, need to ask Zander why the logo of the sub is upside down though it seems?. ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:24am
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Well, that doesn't sound very positive! Looks like quite a machine. There'll be a lot of people who'll want to check out this baby!
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Fiero308 wrote:
Posted By: Fiero308
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 4:13pm
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Well the "Beast" is finally on the road. I still need to tune the suspension to my liking (any sugestions on anyone who could do this for me would be greatly appreciated!!) but otherwise it is awesome .
PS If anyone knows anyone who does custom door seals let me know. I have a leak up by the t-top
Hugh |
Posted By: kawana
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 4:30pm
| very sexy car! Quick question about your air intake though, isn't it going to suck in hot air with it on the right side of the engine bay? |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 9:52pm
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Hopefully I did not get it too greasy. I got the pleasure of driving Hugh's car today, and Huge it was defiantly a pleasure to take it for a spin. Makes me want my V8 back on the road.
I don't know what the technical name for the shock is, but Hugh needs a shock that will compress much easier than what he has now however will not de-compress really quickly. His suspension is VERY Firm however on hard launches the front end climbs over 2". Its kinda neat to see it haunch down, and look like its going to yard up the front wheels, but no exactly what Hugh is looking for. His suspension is VERY custom, so he is going to need a tuner shop to do any work for him. I would think some of the auto cross guys would have a recommendation for him. Brian would you mind asking on your Auto cross forums and report back here. Please. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 4:24pm
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variable valve damping shocks typically two valves one on each end of shock to adjust both directional damping we used them on the sprint car with dual torsion bars on each axle total infinate adjustment avail with that kind of setup M ------------- Marcel 86SE V6 Auto 85SE V6 Auto 85 2m4 soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed |
Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 19 November 2008 at 12:38am
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You found a six-speed that will fit? Would you mind telling me who? =P ------------- Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan. |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 19 November 2008 at 9:00am
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The 6spd is from V8 Archie, it is from the Pontiac G6 the trans is an F40 6spd from GM. The trans is actully cheap about $500 however the kit to install it is expensive. I think the complete Fiero Conversion kit is around $2400. Just go to http://www.v8archie.com - http://www.v8archie.com ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 19 November 2008 at 12:00pm
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Awesome. Thanks a ton! ------------- Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan. |
Posted By: Fire451
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 6:58pm
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 9:03pm
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I think they are keeping the latest mod unwraps for the moment. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 11:14am
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Best kept secret by everybody 
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Posted By: Linlor
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 7:50pm
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Hugh; You mentioned in your reply to my build thread you went from a G6 6 spd to an auto with your turbo build. What did you do with your G6 6 spd? How hard would it be to fit that to the back end of my 3400 DOHC do you think? I went over to Pennock's a couple days ago and had a look through the multitude of threads on it but they all seemed to go for 3800 S/C or V8 swaps. I think a 6 spd behind a high revving DOHC would be outstanding. Thanks Don ------------- Ferrari 308 Replica Prova 5000s Countach Replica |
Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 04 March 2011 at 7:24am
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Any update on...
Best kept secret by everybody 
Edit: well, so much for creativity in action here
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