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Romeo 
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Spotted... On my hoist at work!
Owned by an older Miss named Penny. Apparantly spoke to one of our club members from the Lougheed area at some point or another, and has one of the new cards we have. Came in for oil, brakes, coolant and electrical. On a related note, I TOTALLY understand why some shops turn us away. What an awful brake system to work on. |
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 6:51pm |
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That's Me:)...met Penny when we had a neighbourhood garage sale...and what do you mean hard brakes to work on?
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Romeo
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 7:33pm |
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For starters, they didn't match on the rears. Two fairly different designs. Following that, the pistons were pretty much seized (And also spun in opposite directions side to side). FOLLOWING EVEN THAT the very design made it virtually impossible to get the sliders in on the left side. I can safely say it was without a doubt the WORST brake job I've ever had to perform.
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:08pm |
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What was she, about 22?
Aw come on, they're not that bad. I had never done Fiero brakes before until I tackled the ones on the '84. Everything was wrong with them (after sitting for five years), but it wasn't all that difficult to deal with. By the way, you don't need to turn the pistons to retract them. Take the parking brake lever off the back of the calipers and simply push the pistons in (with the proper $5 tool).
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:31pm |
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Fronts are a cake walk, rears I almost refuse to do, unless the person is fully aware they may need new rear calipers. I'd say about 50% of the rear brakes I have worked on, by the time you have the piston turned in far enough for the pads to go on, the seals end up leaking. I do have the proper brake tool and I do know how to do it. This is one of the reason's Lisa's, Tims and my 857 all have Grand Am rear brakes. My 857 will soon have Grand Am Front brakes and Caddilac rear brakes.
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Romeo
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:32pm |
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She has a few on you, Patty Boy. And in comparison to every other vehicle I've ever done brakes on, the Fiero is god-awful. Like I said, leaps and strides the most frustrating one to do.
In another hint of irony, she told me the vehicle she sold to buy the Fiero: A 1966 Mustang. Well I told her speak of the devil, I just happened to have a '66 Stang in my driveway! |
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:44pm |
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Geez, she must be older than dirt.
I don't understand why you're turning the piston.
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 11:27pm |
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Because the E-Brake arm only moves a very short distance in its travels throughout the years. Which means the bolt that it is bolted to only moves maybe an 1/8th turn over the years, So even removing the E-Brake handle the pinstons still refuse to go in, either pushing or turning in. These are OLD calipers and many have issues. I'll bet there is at least 40% of the Fiero's on the road with rear brakes that are so shot they barley function and trying to get old parts to function like new parts can be a royal pain in the but and sometimes impossible without rebuilding them yourself. When you do that it does not work 100% of the time either. Its just easier to warn the customer they may need new calipers on the back, and if they do work great, if not, put on new calipers.
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Posted: 18 August 2010 at 12:49am |
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If the pistons won't retract by pushing them in (with the e-brake levers removed), I suspect the rear calipers are toast, so I still don't see the point of turning the pistons.
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Posted: 18 August 2010 at 5:48pm |
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The pistons are screw-type... Hence why you turn them to retract them in... Kinda like screw-type pistons on Ventures, Magnums, 300's, Caravans, and I'm sure many others...
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Posted: 18 August 2010 at 6:38pm |
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They're "screw-type" only if you're too lazy to take the parking brake lever off the back of the caliper.
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