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    Posted: 14 August 2012 at 8:12pm

Well people... it is this weekend and i am planing to go and dance with the cones.

 

PORSCHE CLUB CANADA WEST REGION - Sunday August 19th 2012 AUTOCROSS EVENT - DOUBLE SIZED PAD!!

First timers and spectators are welcome to attend

If you are co-driving, please indicate (in the 'notes' field) which car you will be driving and who your co-driver is!

EVERYONE MUST READ THE FOLLOWING:

- All drivers and spectators must sign the PCA liability waiver in order to enter the venue. No exceptions.

- All "drivers" under 18 years of age must be accompanied by a parent.

- This event is capped at 60 drivers. Pre-registration via Karelo is mandatory. There will be absolutely no refunds for this event. Credit towards a future event may be given only in the event of medical or family emergencies, and only if notice is given within 24hours, at the discretion of the event chairperson.

- Pre-registration on Karelo is the only way to sign up for this event. Those showing up with cash on the morning of the event will be turned away.

- Cost is $50+HST per driver. ($56.00) (HST number: 81333 1451 RT0001)

 

Like the others it is out at the Pitt Meadows airport

Anyone else going to come out?

Sign up here

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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

Anyone else going to come out?

Yep.

I hear though that the Colbster is going to miss the event. I think he's afraid of the mighty duke and the new tires I've acquired.

I haven't got the tires mounted yet, but I'm hoping I'm not going to have any clearance issues up front. All four tires are 225/50/16 and the wheels are 16x7 with an offset of 38mm. With the front of the Fiero as low as it is, I'm a little concerned with a possible lack of clearance between the outside edge of the tire tread and the inside edge of the front fender lip. It's going to be close! I may have to raise the front a half inch or so.

I'll obviously know a lot more when the tires are mounted and I put the wheels on the car.

 

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Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

It's going to be close!

Well, I got the tires on the wheels and the wheels on the car. Yesiree, it's close... but I think it'll work.

With the front suspension compressed down to the bumpstops, there's about 1/8" of clearance between the outside edge of the tire tread and the inside edge of the front fender lip. (That's while being tested with the wheels straight, hard left and hard right.)

Looks great. As long as it doesn't rub during hard cornering on the track (and I don't think it will), I'll be delighted.

Long day... gotta eat... gotta sleep... early start tomorrow. Looking real forward to the autocross.

 

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Patrick, i encourage you to keep slow. Dont want to take any chances...
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Perfect day for autocross. It stayed overcast, so we didn't bake!

Just two members of the Johanson clan today... Gary and brother Al. Colby was conspicuous by his absence.

The new tires felt good on the track. I can still spin the car at will (which happened a couple times), but overall I was pleased with them. And most importantly... they didn't rub the fenders!

 

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Yes. out of 10, this was a 9.5.

No sunblock needed and although the course was stated as "Ridiculous" on the handout we were given, it was fun once we all remembered where to drive. It seemed everyone was driving to their limits. Smiles could be seen everywhere i looked.

i will post some cell phone video in a little bit. here is the course map.

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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

here is the course map.

I took Gary's map and rotated it so that we've now got the option of seeing it from this perspective as well. Makes it easier to read Rich's comments.

Interesting layout. Would've made a great demolition derby course if we could've had four or five cars on the track at one time. The "Black Hole" area especially would've been action packed. 

 

 

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thanks Patrick. i was bagged and when it came up like that i just left it.

 

Here is the video from the car. the one you took, Patrick, failed to upload and it may have been the music i tossed in. i am trying to uploat it again.

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Ignoring a cone a later run I did was about 1.5 sec
faster than that one. More gas, less brake.   
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ok. here is your handiwork with my cell, Patrick. it is poor in quality but all round ok. good job!

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Al, your runs were crazy quick! one day, i hope to close the gap...
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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

Al, your runs were crazy quick! one day,
i hope to close the gap...


You will. Couple things come to mind:

- Stay on the gas longer and brake later. When you
brake, brake hard and then ease off the pedal to avoid
locking up the tires.

- If you overslow for a turn, then get on the gas right
away and get the speed back up

- In a turn, watch your line. Keep looking ahead and
apply more gas ASAP when you are almost lined up with the
following section. Don't wait until you are lined up -
that's too late.

- You need more confidence in the tires. They have lots
of grip and you need to get comfortable sliding the car a
little bit. Often sliding the car around isn't the
fastest way around the track, but if you practice going
too fast in the safe areas (away from the edge of the
skidpad), then you will develop those instinctive skills
of car handling at the limit (and beyond). When you have
that, you can use those skills to save yourself when you
overdrive parts of future courses. My 59.3 run had lots
of overdriving but it remained fairly fast only because I
was able to not spin the car. Rich's 58.1 in your car
showed what it can do and he felt it could get in the
57's. Not too shabby for this homebuilt beast.   

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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

ok. here is your handiwork with my cell, Patrick. it is poor in quality but all round ok. good job!

I've shot lots of video in my life, but never while just holding a "screen" in front of my face. The biggest problem was that without an eyepiece (with an diopter adjustment) to be looking through, I couldn't really see on the screen what I was shooting.  All I could make out was the horizon and a blurry black moving blob. So I simply concentrated on leveling the horizon and keeping the black blob from racing off the screen.

Yeah, the 4x zoom I used must be a digital zoom (as opposed to optical). It sure degrades the image quality. However, blurry video is still a whole lot better than no video.

[EDIT] Gary, I don't know what you use to edit your videos, but when you add a music track, are you forced to drop the original ambient audio? If not, it's often preferable to retain the original audio and perhaps (if necessary) lower it's level in the mix. Otherwise, the video seems kind of "dead". As well as seeing it, I want to hear that Porsche in the video! 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote karnak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2012 at 8:05pm

[Patrick] well when i put up a video i add the sound and i really dont know what happens to the other bits that are in there. i will post the version with the actual sound track but there is some chatter and a little sound in the background. there was a funny bit before Al's run that i might post also.. a bit of talking and some background noises...

[Al] more gass and less brake is hard to do when you body knows it is going to die if you miss the corner (sort of). it will take some work to undo the reflex to brake. lol   I am always happy enough to know the car can do it, even if i cant.

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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

[Patrick] well when i put up a video i add the sound and i really dont know what happens to the other bits that are in there.

When is this done, after you've uploaded to YouTube?

Editing video prior to uploading to YouTube is the way to go, but I understand that not everyone wants to learn a new program if they aren't into shooting/editing video big time.

 

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ok. here is Patrick's video without the music. Here is the funny bit i spoke of.
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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

ok. here is Patrick's video without the music.

Gary, I've mixed the audio from both videos (and removed the chit-chat). The new audio track can be used in place of the audio in the "no music" version of your videos. What format and bitrate would you like the audio track? Send me your email address when you have a chance and I'll fire it over so you can upload it.

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Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

When is this done, after you've uploaded to YouTube?

I had a look at the video editor incorporated into YouTube, and it sucks. I see it doesn't allow you to upload your own audio track to add to your video.  However, I see that it does allow you to control the relative levels of ambient audio and added music (from their library). Info on that is Here.

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The audio from an added track will overlap replace your clips’ original audio by default. To customize the volume at which an audio track plays over your clips, adjust the volume slider to at the far right of the name of the track. You can choose between:

•Only Music (the default): Plays only the added audio track.
•Favor Music: Plays the swapped in track most prominently.
•Equal: Plays original and swapped audio at equal volume.
•Favor Original Audio Plays the original audio from your clips most prominently

Another option you have in regards to editing the audio (as well as the video) is to use Windows Live Movie Maker. It's rather mickey mouse as well, but it is freely available. Info on using that is Here. There are of course plenty of superior video editing programs available, and for the most part they're reasonably priced. I've been using Pinnacle Studio for a lot of years.

 

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Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

[Al] more gass and less brake is hard to do
when you body knows it is going to die if you miss the
corner (sort of). it will take some work to undo the reflex
to brake. lol   I am always happy enough to know the
car can do it, even if i cant.


What if I promised you wouldn't die?   

Next autox, intentionally push it in a turn in the middle
of the course (away from the fence or dirt). Let the car
start to slide or even spin and work on your car control
skills. You'll have fun.   
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Originally posted by AllanJ AllanJ wrote:

Let the car start to slide or even spin and work on your car control skills. You'll have fun.   

I did that (accidently) at the "Cross" and I think I mowed down about eight cones at once while sliding sideways. They were flying in all directions. It was like I was bowling.

 

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