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Patrick
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Topic: 100 dogs slaughtered at Whistler Posted: 05 February 2011 at 10:12am |
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Yeah, pain can be a real problem. Pain can cause any of us, dog or human, to become rather grumpy. Frankie occasionally gets a pinched nerve in her back. Normally she wants to run around outside for hours. Some days though she makes it clear she wants to go home and lay down after only a few blocks/minutes. Dave, has your vet suggested anything to deal with Duke's discomfort?
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Bassman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2011 at 8:50am | ||
Good on the removal Graeme...
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Brian (Bassman)
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Graeme
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2011 at 1:39am | ||
I'm really impressed Dave, excellent to hear how well he's being taken care of. My hat's off , and I wish you the very best in figuring out and deciding what to do.
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2011 at 1:13am | ||
I am not going to quote each persons post, but will try and address them all. He gets much more exercise now than he did a few years ago. We have 2 Tennant's that are really into the outdoors. They take him on walks everyday and during the summer they take him down to a creek pool and let him swim for hours on end. On top of the longer walks, having a houseful of smokers, he gets taken out probably 5-10 times a day for a short walk of about 15mins as we don't smoke in the house its just natural to take duke outside and walk around, even if its just up and down the back alley and out to the street and walking over to check the mail. We have taken him to the vet to get checked out, he is starting to develop issues with his hip's due to age and is not moving around as well as he should. One of the reason for all th walks is to keep him from laying around and getting stiff. As to diet, it has been changed a lot over the last couple years. He no longer gets McDonald's except on a very special occasion. His moist food is now the casserole style that has both meet and veggies in it, and the dry is now a mix of kibble and beef that is enriched with vitamins. We don't' ever get aggressive with him IE hitting or anything. When he growls at us, we take a firm stance, and at worst have a spray bottle with water that we use. We are honestly doing everything we can to take good care of him, just are not sure at this point what else we can do.
Thank You for all your kind and concerned comments.
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Graeme
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2011 at 12:40am | ||
I thought it best to remove that post and did so along with deleting the user account. It was the first and only post by whoever it was and was obviously done without letting anybody know who they were. This to me isn't quite the behaviour we would look for in a member of our club. If he/she wants to come back on and make their case for their anonymity then that's fine, but I suspect we'll never see that person again with their very specific agenda.
As for Dave and Duke (if I may humbly express my opinion from experience), Duke desperately needs an outlet to burn off all that energy (not to mention the poor diet he has). If you can't do that then it's safest to let him go, perhaps to a family that can devote enough time to him. Visit sometimes if it helps. The LAST thing you want to do is risk him biting Arianna.. I can't even imagine that. We have a little dog here and the first thing I did was make sure the dog knew where she stood on the totem pole, at the very bottom. No issues at all right now, but if I were to see any different towards our little girl then some action would be taken. Of course only after properly analyzing the situation. Like Patrick said there though, most dogs become aggressive just out of sheer boredom and too much energy. |
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Bassman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 11:11pm | ||
Even for us humans...need to take him out and give him quality energy, he's a big dog with alot of pent up energies...as with the rest, your family is what counts, but Duke needs an outlet to take off his edge...best of luck |
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Brian (Bassman)
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 10:35pm | ||
Dave, I'm FAR from an expert on dogs, but from what I understand the number one reason for "bad" behavior from "good" dogs is lack of exercise. Frankie gets walked two hours a day every day on-leash, and every couple of days or so she gets two or three hours running around off-leash (usually in the woods) which is very important. If she doesn't receive this amount of exercise on a very regular basis we notice she gets a lot more snarley with other dogs. Duke might have other issues which trigger his aggression, but you may have to decide if you're willing (or able) to devote enough time to help him work off his aggressive tendencies. I wish you well with this difficult situation.
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Dawg
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 10:18pm | ||
Oh man.....you would never forgive yourself if he took a chunk out of your little girl.
I hate to say this in a room of dog lovers but... he's just a dog. The Dawg
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Romeo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 10:06pm | ||
David, I am in no way, shape or form an expert on canine behavior, but my own Dakota (My blind dog) was incredibly hostile towards anyone he thought was below him in terms of social hierachy, and did manage to scar my face on one occasion. That being said, basic deprevation for any sort of bad behavior, as well as taking an aggressive stance towards him (Don't be violent, but if he's going to growl, a good yank on the collar usually gets him to shut up) knocked Dakota back down to a submissive/omega state. Don't know if that will work in your case, but it could be worth a shot. Anyways, smart idea taking down that comment. I don't think anyone wants to have that posted in case something does happen. No point attracting attention. |
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Capt Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 9:43pm | ||
I was on the fringe of removing it myself, as I goolged his user name, and then googles his email address, I could not find anything solid about phatglass or him being a scam. CKNW does have a lot of stories about the topic, including one about the Owner of one of company's being kicked out of the Sanctioning body as a board of directors.
However the biggest thing that I think is really dumb, the BC Labor board has documents that would help the SPCA and RCMP press charges on this asshats, and is refusing to release them. The SPCA has taken them to court to get the documents including administrative notes and emails released to them. How can they really justify holding these documents back. In My Own Opinion, "I Feel" the dogs should be released the building torched and people that ordered the killing as well as the employees that did them, should be held on trial and sent to jail for years. Hopefully there will be some "dog lovers" in prison that will give the people involved a fitting end. Other side not, both company's involved in the dog culling, have had there business lisces revoked and are banned from making any sales in the city of Whistler and Squamish. Lisa and I are facing letting go of Duke right now, so this topic really hits home for us. He has taken dog training classes and passed them, however he is becoming more aggressive to Lisa and I, and has also snapped at Arianna. He has never bitten any of us, short of a snap on the hand the did not break skin, but we are just not sure if we want to "wait" until something does happen, and the option of giving him away is just not fair to him or a new owner knowing his tendency's. I mean what do you do with a giant lap dog that loves you, sleeps beside you, and you know would guard the house and your family till the end, however has a bad temper that scares you. |
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Bassman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 8:01pm | ||
You suggesting to remove it?...I would agree that we do, it was on the news today about all the threats, etc... |
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Brian (Bassman)
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Romeo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 7:54pm | ||
Now, I'm no laywer, but don't you think that in posting the personal information of people who are naturally hated might look suspicious if something does happen to them? This is public domain, after all: Anyone can view it. Just, you know, something to think about. |
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 February 2011 at 5:33pm | ||
Yeah, what a shame those 100 dogs weren't given the same chance you gave Tia.
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Bassman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 February 2011 at 3:31pm | ||
I miss her so...she had a great life
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Brian (Bassman)
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 February 2011 at 12:10pm | ||
I hope Brian doesn't mind me doing this, but I wanted to copy and post something from This thread. Brian has had some experience with those low-lifes up at Whistler. I thought this would make for interesting reading for those of you who may not have originally seen this posted two years ago.
Brian, sorry if I've made you tear up a bit. I wanted to show a fine example of the type of beautiful dogs that have been abused for years and/or killed by those bastards up at Whistler. Steps need to be taken so that this sort of criminal activity can no longer continue.
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Romeo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 February 2011 at 11:08am | ||
You know, my biggest issue is the pointlessness in all the this. There was literally no need for any of this, and why did no one along the way stop and ask 'Why'? |
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Boxin' Robin
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 February 2011 at 10:35am | ||
What a horrific news. And I was thinking of supporting this company's dog sledding business when my wife and I were in Whistler last time. Now I say we "accidentally" burn down their building and beat the fu*# out of everybody who happens to be there. I love dogs, both my own and others, and I'm sick of hearing about humans taking advantage of animals who are unable to defend themselves. |
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Romeo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 January 2011 at 9:46pm | ||
Yeah, that's my biggest problem with him suing for emotional distress. I know if I were in that situation and I was ordered to commit genocide I'd be headed straight to the authorities, no questions asked.
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Patrick
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 January 2011 at 7:46pm | ||
I just can't believe what some people will do when ordered to do so by a "superior", be that a boss or whatever. Don't pathetic bastards like this guy have a freakin' backbone? More gruesome details from Here.
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Graeme
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 January 2011 at 5:42pm | ||
I'm appalled. How could you even live with yourself after that.. It's all about the bottom line I guess. Typical business rules.
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