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WTD 4spd Clutch Fork ASAP

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Topic: WTD 4spd Clutch Fork ASAP
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Subject: WTD 4spd Clutch Fork ASAP
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 5:07pm

    We just got Nigel’s trans out of the car and the clutch fork is destroyed we need a new one quick.   We found one on the Fiero Store for $50 NEW, but we would have to wait, hoping that someone has one or knows where to get one locally. 

 

  Please Call Nigel at 778-895-3691

 

 

Thanks

David



{edit} -- replacement transmission found.  No more calls required!  Thanks.




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Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 6:25pm
Dave is going to post pics of nigels fork later, but here's another one that I ran into that will probably look similar (excuse the focus).




Posted By: Fiero Zen
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 6:56pm


Here are pictures showing problems with my transmission.



Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 9:08pm

So, what would cause that?

 



Posted By: 84 Indy
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 9:43pm
ouch! could be just blown release brg, also may be just bad bearing or could be made bad by riding with the foot on the clutch pedal


Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 9:55pm
It pretty much comes down to a slightly crappy design.  They're made out of simple bent steel parts, welded together.  The ends fatigue and snap (after bending a bit) then all hell breaks loose.

That's gotta be the 6th one I've seen do that.



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 10:01pm

Yep, we suspect the clutch fork was bent previous, as the last shop, called and said it was bent, or damaged, then when we supplied the replacement part,  they claimed that magically it was fine.  (also told they could not figure out how to get it out)  Well they claimed to have fixed it and returned it to Nigel.  $2400 later and 18 months everything explodes apart, I finally take the time to look at it myself and find this nasty mess.

Looks like the fork failed, which took out the throwout bearing, which destroyed the pressure plate, which cost him the entire clutch.  At this point, we are going to swap in a complete new clutch and a complete new trans. (used trans)    No recourse from the shop as they only give a 1 year warranty.   

        Ah well, I should have his car back together in a few days.



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 10:04pm

Care to, ummm... mention the shop by name?

Is there actually damage to the tranny itself, other than the fork (and of course the clutch, etc)?



Posted By: Fiero Zen
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 10:29pm

Mister Transmission.

First shop: 104th avenue in Surrey.

Second shop: In North Vancouver.

Between to the two shops they had my car for about 9 days.

The $2400 I spent must have been for storage.

To be honest...It could have blown up anywhere. I am really lucky that it happened as I got home.

 



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Yesterday is History
Tomorrow is a Mystery
But Today is a Gift
That is why it is called the Present


Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 10:47pm
Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

Care to, ummm... mention the shop by name?

Is there actually damage to the tranny itself, other than the fork (and of course the clutch, etc)?

 

Not that I can tell aside from some gouges in on the sleeve the release bearing sits on.   Which I am sure could be polished out and the grease would fill up the divots.  

          However seeing the bent master cylinder rod, I honestly believe they KNEW the clutch fork was toast and after getting it together and finding out that it would not release with the fork that bad, they grabbed a wrong clutch Master rod, that was too long, bent it so it would work just enough to get the car to function.  Just pisses me off to see a shop do that kind of crap/used car salesman tactic to get it out the door.    Unfortunately, its not the first and I doubt it will be the last time I get brought a car that a "so called" professional shop, has f-d over a Fiero owner.    Trust me I am the furthest from a professional shop as you can get, I just happen to know how to work on Fieros.  So occasionally, when I have some extra time, and need some extra cash, and am not working on my own Fiero's, I'll take on a job every now and again.    The worst cheats/scams/screw jobs all seem to be in relation to clutches.  



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: 84 Indy
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 11:03pm
"The worst cheats/scams/screw jobs all seem to be in relation to clutches."
lets not forget brakes, where the shop replaces EVERYTHING! just to CYA and reduce comebacks, wasteful, i shake my head


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 October 2009 at 11:41pm

Originally posted by Fiero Zen Fiero Zen wrote:

The $2400 I spent must have been for storage.

Wow, that really is scandalous.

 



Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 19 October 2009 at 11:28am
Nigel, you should call them up and let them know you'd like a chat. Head down there and show them the pics and your story and ask them if they thought they'd never get caught for the work they did. See what they have to say and if they seem to be brushing you off then perhaps ask them if they'd like to be in the local newspaper.

No shop should be able to do that, have it proven to them that they're work is sub par and not take responsibility. I would ask them for the cost of the fixes you've done this time around. Parts and hours cost of Dave's time. If they're as good as you previously said they were then they'll own up and admit to the wrong parts/not replacing parts/damaging parts so they'll fit.

At the very least, you can't lose by trying.


Posted By: Fiero Zen
Date Posted: 19 October 2009 at 12:44pm

Yes...I hear you. I am also considering the small claims court avenue.

In a way I am glad that I have another complete transmission to have installed. Then the one that is broken can be used as part of evidence.



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Yesterday is History
Tomorrow is a Mystery
But Today is a Gift
That is why it is called the Present


Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 12:40pm

 

          Fought 10hrs on a 30 min job, finally going WAY OVER the TOP to get it correct, see video for explanation

http://videos.westcoastfieros.com/General%20Tech/clutchstrap.wmv - http://videos.westcoastfieros.com/General%20Tech/clutchstrap .wmv



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: ARTIC-1
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 7:46pm
need a CLUTCH FORK      $7.95 at pick-a-part in CHILLY they have 2 Fieros
there,check out there prices,just about free.you could might! score a new
clutch an plate everything complt for under$50,there stock is
here-http://www.pickapart.ca/price_list.php
http://parts.pickapart.ca/
Cheers

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SNOW MAN

87-GT/AUTO-2.8_ WHITE

88-TTop/ Duke-2.5. RED


Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 8:00pm
   Thanks to a friendly member locally, we were able to pick up a complete trans for free.  Its installed, as seen in the video link about 2 posts above this one.

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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Bobz0r
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Fiero Zen Fiero Zen wrote:

Mister Transmission.

First shop: 104th avenue in Surrey.

Second shop: In North Vancouver.

Between to the two shops they had my car for about 9 days.

The $2400 I spent must have been for storage.

To be honest...It could have blown up anywhere. I am really lucky that it happened as I got home.

 

I have never EVER heard anything good about Mr. Transmission. The one here in Langley on 200th had my father Caravan 3 times in 4 years for blown trannys. My father despised them. I was too young to remember why though, ha ha. I do know a guy who works there now. Used to own a 1st Gen Cavalier but now owns a Cobalt SS. He seems to know his stuff, even if he is a huge jackass.



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 21 October 2009 at 9:58pm

 

        LOL, I know the guy you are talking about.  He's actually a good guy.  He was going to set up several of us Fiero guys with 6spds, however once we decided what the install cost was going to be for the custom parts, we gave up on the idea.  After driving a 6spd Fiero as well, I have actually decided, that I don't want a 6spd, as the ratios don't really suit my driving style.



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Bobz0r
Date Posted: 22 October 2009 at 11:10pm
Yup, we're both talking about the same guy, me thinks. I got nothing against him, but I can say he isn't the kind of person I'd be friends with, ha ha. I remember that same deal with the 6 spds. Too bad most of the J-body guys are cheap and don't want/need one. lol



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