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Topic: Weighing In
Posted By: Romeo
Subject: Weighing In
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 6:44pm

Does anyone happen to know the weights of the stock SE and GT Fieros? And possibly the approximate weight of the stock Iron Block?

When I had gone to ICBC a long time back, they had registered it at 1240KGs, which works out to about 2700ibs. To me, this conflicts with the videos David showed me comparing the Fiero and MR2, as the Fiero was quoted at 2800, and I weighed in at 2700 with two 200-pound males in it.

Has anyone actually managed to get this thing on the scales? Or measured the weight of a stock engine?



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.



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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 6:55pm

I hit the truck scales on a semi regular basis, and my 88GT comes in at 1290kg with me out of the car.

My V8 when it was in my 85GT came in at 1250kg. 

 

 (Yes the V8 weighed less than my V6, however the V8 car had a lot of light weight bits to it, IE the Isuzu vs the Getrag, it was a notchback vs a fastback, all the A/C bits were removed)



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 04 November 2009 at 9:48am

Okie dokie. Morale of the story being don't trust AirCare/ICBC. lol

Still no word on the engine though, hm?



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 04 November 2009 at 10:23am

Then it's a good thing I'm a jockey size for now ?


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 04 November 2009 at 10:37am

Originally posted by Car-2-Lo Car-2-Lo wrote:

Then it's a good thing I'm a jockey size for now ?

What's this "for now" business? Are you expecting a late-life growth spurt?

 



Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 04 November 2009 at 11:45am
I seem to recall my 87 duke 5spd (w/NO options!) I ran over the scales at about 2400lbs.  The heaviest I've seen was just a hair under 3000.

And when I did my notch->FB conversion, the total extra was 13lbs (I checked the weight of EACH part BTW and added them all up!).



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 12:47am

 

 

John you have mentioned that several times about the weight of the parts of a fastback vs Notchback.

      There must be something missed, I have no idea what, but I have never seen a notchback and fastback comparably equipped come within 100lbs of a similar notchback. I have also seen 200lb differences between 2 cars.   There is some mystery weight or something, something that is not taken into the equation?  



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 1:05am

My 86 SE V6 Auto wieghed in at 500kg front axle, 820kg rear axle.

1320 kg total with me in the car and 3/4 tank of gas

thats 2904 pounds and i wiegh 175

There's the math!!!!!



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Marcel 86SE V6 Auto
85SE V6 Auto
85 2m4
soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 1:15am

Originally posted by Capt Fiero Capt Fiero wrote:

There is some mystery weight or something, something that is not taken into the equation?

Depends on how much dope is stashed in the rocker panels.

 



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 9:11am

Are you implying I could manage to squeeze approximately... 400ibs worth of dope in the rocker panels? lol

Alright, so now I've heard 2400ibs and 2800ibs... Does not having AC and having the basic sound system really reduce the weight that substantially?



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 9:19am
If you remove the driver/etc from the equation....

I think my 87 duke 5spd with no options (no power windows, sunroof, A/C - NADDA!) was about as light as you could get it (oh yeah, even had the 13" steelies with thin plastic hubcaps!).  Hence the 2400lbs.

About the only thing it had was the stereo (there WAS a delete radio option!).  But...  that's what...  5lbs?

It's a cumulative thing though.  I don't see any one option except for A/C, or automatic that adds a lot to it.  But when you start to add them all up...  you rapidly pack on those extra 500lbs.

Sorta like the "oh, its only ONE doughnut".  Cough.

(oh yeah - if you transport tar oil, you can carry more than loose bud in a given area)




Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 10:18am

Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

Originally posted by Capt Fiero Capt Fiero wrote:

There is some mystery weight or something, something that is not taken into the equation?

Depends on how much dope is stashed in the rocker panels.

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

Are you implying I could manage to squeeze approximately... 400ibs worth of dope in the rocker panels? lol

Originally posted by Dr.Fiero Dr.Fiero wrote:

(oh yeah - if you transport tar oil, you can carry more than loose bud in a given area)

I can see we're in dire need of a "tech day" on this.

 



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 9:33am

LOL! So illegal!

Wonder how much you'd stand to lose by throwing an LS-series in the back... And an aluminum housed transmission...



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 6:17pm

 

Hmm most weight I have ever had in my personal Fiero, was about 1000lbs total.  

8 buckets of steel plates at 100-110lbs each plus my 200lb butt in the drivers seat.

       Was instantly lowered dang near to the bump stops.  It was not intended, I was asked my a former boss/client to stop by and pick up some stuff for a job he was doing.  He said it was a few buckets of plates and things.  He didn't bother to say they were 5 gallon pales full of steel plates.

    



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 8:35pm

LOL! The poor man's lowering kit.

 

Does no one find it odd, however, that AirCare was off by a total of 400ibs? That's a substantial amount of weight!



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 10:20pm

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

LOL! The poor man's lowering kit.

Because I've been working on my other Fiero at Clynt's place, I've been transporting all my tools in the trunk of the GT as well as carting around a tranny and brake rotors etc on the passenger side floor. (I have the passenger seat out.) The GT is sitting nice and low.

 



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 10:42pm
LOL, I have carried so many trans axles in my passenger seat, even once had the passenger seat out, and carried a Turbo 400 in the passenger seat well.    We should start a thread with pics of the items people have put in there Fiero's.   (there are tons of those threads on PFF, but we should have one for local stuff)

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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 11:14pm

Originally posted by Capt Fiero Capt Fiero wrote:

We should start a thread with pics of the items people have put in there Fiero's.

Before you posted I was trying to find the picture I took of the 5-speed Isuzu tranny the day I brought it home in the GT a couple of weeks ago. I was going to add it to my last post, and then the phone rang...

Anyway, here it is. A tranny and a flywheel and two clutch assemblies and two motor/tranny mounts and two shift cables and other assorted parts. With the seat out there's lots of room. I could have easily fit a second tranny on the floor!

 



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 11:45pm

From Aldergrove near Fort Langley all the way to my placein Surrey.  I didn't want to put it on the roof and scratch the paint.

 

http://captfiero.com/ladder/4.jpg -

http://captfiero.com/ladder/4.jpg -

This is John Carlo's old  4spd Transaxle coming home to my place for Nigel in the passanger seat of my 88GT.    Sorry for the poor quality it was taken on my cell phone to upload to Facebook.

http://captfiero.com/ladder/4.jpg -  

http://captfiero.com/ladder/4.jpg -

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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 12:13am

Next you'll be telling us that Nigel was perched at the top of that ladder all the way to your place!

 



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 1:15am
Na but the looks I got driving through fort Langley with it like was worth its weight in gold.   I just went really slow under low power lines and bridges.

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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 6:22am
Still got shots of you and the 85 as the Jeep transporter?
(not that heavy - just funny)



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 8:35am

Ah you mean these.



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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 10:43am
Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

Next you'll be telling us that Nigel was perched at the top of that ladder all the way to your place!

 


LOL. "I can see my house from here. The one I grew up in."

Seriously though David, just for doing that, you're my hero.



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 10:49am

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

Next you'll be telling us that Nigel was perched at the top of that ladder all the way to your place!

LOL. "I can see my house from here. The one I grew up in."

Sounds like a fine challenge for a photoshop job.  

 



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 20 November 2009 at 8:02am
Man, it's amazing how many times this thread has been completely and utterly de-railed. Drug-smuggling, weight issues, ladder jokes... We have the attention span of a six year old on Halloween. lol

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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 09 December 2009 at 12:15pm

This doesn't compare to the picture of David carting around a ladder in his Fiero, but nevertheless, I think my GT looked pretty weird last Saturday blasting down the freeway from Chilliwack to Vancouver with an exhaust system hanging out of the passenger window. It was a rather chilly drive home in sub-freezing temperatures!

Looking at my Fiero, some joker asked me if I had "the supercharged model".

 



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 11 December 2009 at 1:11pm

lol. Beautiful.

I actually just shed about 0.2 ounces off of my Fiero last week-ish. My dad had neglected to inform me that he hadn't put ANY alcohol in the coolig system at all (It was pure water) so when I started it, crank and alternator spun, water pump did not (Frozen). This in turn heated up the belt and snapped it in all of about... 5 seconds. lol



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 11 December 2009 at 2:22pm

Geez Tristan, I hope a belt is ALL you broke.

I ended up with a Fiero "parts car" a few years ago when I didn't check it's antifreeze level before winter arrived. Cracked block, cracked cooling tubes, etc.

 



Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 11 December 2009 at 8:23pm
WE lost at least one V6 Fastback Fiero last year, cracked the block and junked a really nice 87GT because there was just water in the block, destroyed the motor.

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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.


Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 14 December 2009 at 6:57am
No, far as I can see there's still no misfires or anything severe, so I think the block/heads are OK. As far as the cooling system, I will have to check that when I come back again (Late December). I just couldn't believe he had never thought to throw in a little liquor for the amount of water he'd been pouring in (As he lost the coolant reservoir overflow cap, I also discovered). My poor Gretchin is going to need a day at a car spa when I get back.

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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 03 January 2010 at 12:17am
So what ended up happening?

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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.



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