Application for Collector plates.
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Topic: Application for Collector plates.
Posted By: beken
Subject: Application for Collector plates.
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 10:42am
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Today, I submitted my application, pictures, and aircare sheet for collector plates on my Fiero. I had asked my insurance agent when I should do it. She thought Jan 2 but would ask ICBC for me. ICBC told her I could submit it right away.
On the topic of needing an enclosed locked garage to put your car in, here is the reply I got:
Also, my insurance agent had told me collector plates for an old Porsche was in the $400 range. The Fiero should be under $300, but she isn't sure yet. I'll have to wait for approval from ICBC first. -------------  Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
he is getting advise from someone who is mixing up policies. There is no storage requirement for normal collector plates.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 1:45pm
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Ken, I know we've been discussing this on the mailing list as well, but is it officially stated in an ICBC document that street parking overnight is not allowed? Or is this just an assumption that is being made by us and/or by a misinformed insurance agent?
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Posted By: garrym
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 3:31pm
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my family had a 1924 model t ford, now actually it at the
burnaby museum in dear lake park, but it wasnt allowed to be parked on the street, then again it was mostly made out of wood lol :) we parked it in the garage but we lowered the roof on it to make it fit :) |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 5:19pm
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We might be comparing apples and oranges here.
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 6:13pm
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Hmm now begs the odd question, when my 88GT comes available for collector status, seeing as Lisa is the insurance holder on the blazer, will I have to put the 88 in her name or can she just insure it for me (insurance in her name, but car in my name) and get the discounted price. Now back to the rules, Ken you said, paint might not matter at the club meeting? Anyway we can confirm this? Dang it I am going to have to go down and get the papers and look over them to see what is "allowed" and what is not allowed. Lisa's 85 has all "85" parts except for the wheels and stereo, which could be changed back. However her Red is not the factory red and the racing stripes are not factory. The body is an 85SE, but we put an 85GT nose and rear skin on it. Hmm its probably way to far out there to let it go.
------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Roadfury
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 7:47pm
Just from some of my own observations of cars that have collector plates at the Cruise In, unless you get a a-hole inspector you can get away with almost any paint job ------------- 
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 10:43pm
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Could be an interesting thing to look up. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 2:52pm
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I was told you have to "normally" park your car on the registered private property. You're not supposed to normally park it on the street. I think an overnighter once in awhile would be hard to police, but the concern I got was the plates are easier stolen if parked on the street. If our cars are at a multi-day event, I would think a collector car would be impossible to not have overnight on the street.
As for paint, the application specifically asks if the car is stock including paint colour. From my queries with the British car collectors, they say the colour needs to be an available option colour for that year of car. Similar to the the rule about the radio and wheels, I guess. The 85 Fiero was only available in red, white or black. Silver/gray came later but I think those were classified as 86. Somebody can correct me on that if I'm wrong. But when I bought my car, silver was not yet available. As for Red on Lisa's car, she might have to take the Pegasus off her front hood. I'm pretty sure they won't notice a slight difference in shade of red. I noted that the application does mention decals. I'm hoping the Westcoast Fieros decal on my rear bumper won't mess up my application. But I did specifically get the Fiero 2M6 decal on my rear decklid to meet the requirement that my Fiero had one there when I bought the car. All 1985 Fieros had a Fiero 2m6 or Fiero 2m4 decal on the back. I suspect most ICBC inspectors would overlook that (the decal) as probably some of them weren't even born yet when the car was out. Those with custom paint jobs likely have "agreed value" policies. They will negotiate a value for that custom paint job. I know that corvettes, where some have appreciated above their original purchase values are mostly "agreed value" policies. I hope I'm not the only one doing this. I would like to be able to share stories of this process as it's new to all of us. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 5:20pm
Trust me... I'd be RIGHT THERE with ya! But I still have to wait another year ('86 model and all!).  |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 20 November 2009 at 2:40pm
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On the application for approval, one of the rules is rather subjective. It does mention that they (being somebody at ICBC) have to view your car as having collectible value. I guess that means a Cavalier...wait a minute, further back...a Chevette might not qualify. That sounds to me to mean there is no hard and fast rule on whether or not a car is considered collectible and that they would approve collector plates.
So when you apply, at least make your car presentable. I will await an answer. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 20 November 2009 at 5:11pm
Saw a guy with a Vega that had collectors plates, so..... I'm guessing we're a little more 'elite' than that????  |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:47pm
any Vega that still exists and is driveable should be a collector car  I had one, actually a Pontiac Astre. They rusted even before leaving the showroom and burned oil at around 20,000 miles. Still, with time spent working on them EVERY weekend, they could be kept running until the Fiero's came out. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 10:38am
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Well?!?!?! "The Day" has come and gone. You're now "valid" for them! What's it feel like? What do they look like?! (yeah, I know, you probably haven't actually got them yet). |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 3:26pm
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I'm still waiting.
I just called my insurance agent. She submitted the application at the end of November and it takes 4 to 6 weeks. It's been just over 4 weeks so I still have my fingers crossed. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 3:47pm
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So my insurance agent just called. She had just got off the phone with ICBC and ICBC told her that since the car just became eligible this week, they just started looking at the application. Should be another 3 weeks or so before I know for sure.
The anticipation is killing me. 
------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: bill
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 7:04am
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They have to be in good shape and they don't want to see any major changes from stock. In the past, the wrong engine, any body mods, and incorrect interior would kill you dead. Any dents or missing paint would also disqualify you - they want restored cars, not junkers. And they take the no driving the cars to or from work very seriously - you can lose the license easily. One fool worked at a gas bar and used to park his collector plated car like it was on display on the lot. Duh!
------------- 1988 3.2 turbo Fiero 1957 3.4 in Jamaican MG 2009 2.0 Pontiac GXP coupe |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 11:47am
Though my car is not restored, it is in pretty good condition. Pretty well everything on it that's not wear and tear and some, is original from the factory 25 years ago. No dents or missing paint either. 
The pictures I submitted were taken in September of 2009. http://www.flickr.com/photos/beken/sets/72157622564390644/ - They are also posted here. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 28 January 2010 at 10:46am
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I just got a call from my insurance agent. Collector plates have been approved for my car. The plates should arrive in a week or so.
------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 28 January 2010 at 11:22am
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WOW CONGRATULATIONS. This is a first for anyone in our club. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 28 January 2010 at 12:13pm
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As a side note, the insurance agent called again and said there was a hand written note attached to the approval asking me to remove the aluminum pedal covers and to resubmit another picture of the pedals as stock.
So for those of you considering applying for plates, make sure you remove pretty well all accessories you have attached to your Fiero. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 28 January 2010 at 1:59pm
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Awesome! Great news! As Dave says... a new first! See what I meant about keeping everything REALLY stock in appearance though? |
Posted By: bill
Date Posted: 02 February 2010 at 6:13am
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And be aware that they are watching car use very carefully. Have an accident using the car for unauthorized purposes - driving to work, for example - and say good bye to coverage! ------------- 1988 3.2 turbo Fiero 1957 3.4 in Jamaican MG 2009 2.0 Pontiac GXP coupe |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 02 February 2010 at 8:33pm
Yup. Fully understand. Unlikely I will drive the Fiero to work for any reason.
I just picked up the plates. Will put them on the car as soon as I get a chance. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 02 February 2010 at 8:38pm
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Congrats again. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 February 2010 at 10:40pm
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If you were a bit earlier you could've got plate "A".
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Posted By: bill
Date Posted: 03 February 2010 at 6:27am
Well done on getting what is perhaps the first Fiero collector plate. I've been thinking of giving them a hard time and applying for one for my 09 Solstice coupe - it fits their criteria of less than 1500 built. But then I wouldn't be able to drive it much and I already have too many of those. ------------- 1988 3.2 turbo Fiero 1957 3.4 in Jamaican MG 2009 2.0 Pontiac GXP coupe |
I got some of the earliest plates issued, and they all have the B series, even my multivehicle plate (although there is just one, not two of them).Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 03 February 2010 at 11:44am
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Thanks for the congrats, guys.
I suspect it is appropriate that my Fiero is one of the first (if not first) to get the plates. It was the first V6 manual transmission Fiero in the Province. I think the first few that arrived were automatic transmissioned but not sold. The meeting isn't until next week so I should have the plates on the car by then. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 8:32pm
 ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |
Posted By: bill
Date Posted: 08 February 2010 at 8:01am
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Nice clean car Ken. It deserves to get the plates. ------------- 1988 3.2 turbo Fiero 1957 3.4 in Jamaican MG 2009 2.0 Pontiac GXP coupe |
Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 08 February 2010 at 9:57am
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Thanks, Bill. ------------- Beken (aka Ken) - bekentech@westcoastfieros.com Original and still the owner of an 85SE 2M6 4spd |