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Yet ANOTHER reason to move...

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Topic: Yet ANOTHER reason to move...

Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Subject: Yet ANOTHER reason to move...
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 7:43am

... out of this province of dismay.

Pg A10, today's Province:
(paraphrased)
Beginning Sept 20th, get caught going 40km/h+ over the limit will result in the usual ticket, PLUS a 1st offense will get your vehicle impounded for 7 days.
2nd offense, ticket plus 30 days impounded.
3rd offense ticket plus 60 days.

I'm leaving.

p.s. one of the definitions of a fascist state:
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forgo civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 8:32am

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/09/02/bc-speeding-impoundment.html - http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...poundment.html

I'm still trying to find a way to prove that it's illegal to impound a car for 40+ over.

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I wanna go fast.

Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 9:00am

Oh no, my car is impounded

Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 10:11am

Somewhere really remote where there is only a single RCMP office, almost like Corner Gas:)

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Brian (Bassman)

86 GT Fastback 3.2L

2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive

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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 10:15am

I see we are not the only car club with this concern...posted on PCA today:

http://forum.pca-cwr.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3269#p23781 - New Speeding Rules

It looks like BC is starting to copy Ontario Law, this is the first that I have heard of it

http://www.globaltvbc.com/Speeding+driv ... story.html

http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_release ... 001018.htm

'Excessive Speeding'
(in British Columbia) means that you are travelling 40 km/h or more above the posted speed limit

The Queens Printer states:

Excessive speeding
148 (1) A person who drives a motor vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than 40 km/h over the applicable speed limit set under the authority of an enactment commits an offence and is liable on conviction to not less than the aggregate of the fine amount and the applicable supplemental fine amount, if any, prescribed under section 148.1 for this offence and, subject to those amounts, section 4 of the Offence Act applies.

(2) If a person is charged with an offence under subsection (1) and the evidence does not prove the offence but does prove a contravention of section 140, 146 or 147, the person may be convicted of contravening section 140, 146 or 147, as the case may be, and the person is liable on that conviction to not less than the aggregate of the fine amount and the applicable supplemental fine amount, if any, prescribed under section 148.1 for that offence.

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Brian (Bassman)

86 GT Fastback 3.2L

2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive

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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 7:17pm

I have to say, as much as it personally sucks for me, it is fairly accurate... That means in most highways you're either going 130 or 140 by the time this is a danger on the highway. In the city, there's no excuse for blasting along at 90-100 anyways. I can sort've understand the logic, even if I think it's a little over-kill.

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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.

Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 11:06pm

No sympathy from this corner. I agree with John there. At what point will people actually get it. SPEED KILLS.

Posted By: Dawg
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 12:00am

I suppose if we all stayed in bed we would be a lot safer.

Wouldn't be much of a life though.

For me, it's all about enriching my life with neat experiences without being reckless. A person's definition of reckless can get pretty skewed from a Lazy Boy chair.

In my humble opinion of course....:)

DG

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You dream it up....I'll make it

Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 9:01pm

Graeme wrote:

No sympathy from this corner. I agree with John there. At what point will people actually get it. SPEED KILLS.

I must say though (Playing Devil's Advocate here) Germany has significantly higher speed limits on their highways, and yet, they have less accidents per 100000 people than we do. As does Sweden, which also has less accidents per populus.Hell, even Saskatchewan has less accidents as compared to BC (According to the Province newspaper) per person, and it has highway limits of 130 in some areas! To me, that doesn't imply speed is the issue. It may have a supportive role (If roads are bad it could be what sends you over, or if weather conditions change could make control difficult) but on it's own I think it gets painted as an easy scapegoat a little too often.

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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.

Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 9:40pm

Believe it or not, up until 1999 Montana had no speed limit what so ever on the highways. People would drive at 160kph on a regular basis and it was considered fine. It wasn't until an overeager cop decided to write a ticket for someone doing roughly 150kph that it was brought up, the ticket was later thrown out and the person did not have to pay, however it caused enough of an stir that the government did step in a set a speed limit of roughly 120kph. However the speed limits to this day are barley enforced at all. One of my side jobs I did when I was younger was doing special transport of vehicles from Canada down south. We always went through Montana because we could easily cut 1-2 hrs off of a trip by driving at sustained 150-170kph.

Here is a quick link on the topic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States#Reasonable_and_prudent - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_Stat es#Reasonable_and_prudent

People try to believe that because the government says 100kph is "safe" that it must be some magic safe number. I personally feel completely comfortable cruising along at 160kph. To me that is a safe speed for me. Now is it safe for a new driver, a senior citizen or driver with less experience, or a nervous driver, probably not. There are a lot of places in this world that have a much higher speed limit than we do here and as Romeo pointed out, have fewer accidents. I'd love to see an Autobahn (sp) type of highway here in Canada. Would make a daily commute to work much more enjoyable. I might actually look for a job further away just for the drive.

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Capt Fiero
88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.