Favourite Engines.
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Topic: Favourite Engines.
Posted By: Romeo
Subject: Favourite Engines.
Date Posted: 15 November 2010 at 9:27pm
Here's the thread to post what your favourite engines are. Popular, forgotten, old, new, sixteen cylinders or four, post whatever you wish, some data about it and why you like it.
I'm going to go ahead and start with Lambourghini's new V12 going in their new Avantador. At 700HP, naturally aspirated, this little screamer will climb to 8500RPM. Here's a video of it being assembled, and then ran on the test bench.
http://jalopnik.com/5690504/hear-the-new-lamborghini-v12-in-action - http://jalopnik.com/5690504/hear-the-new-lamborghini-v12-in- action
Once you shake your goosebumps off, post your own favourites!
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Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 11:35am
favourite engine I've had (in a more normal car) was the Chrysler slant-6 in a 1966 Plymouth Valiant. It was exceptionally smooth, powerful and economical to run. Unfortunately, emission controls would conspire it to extinction.
I also really liked the engine sounds from a Fiat X/19.
Frankly, in 1985, when I drove down the street in my Fiero and people heard the engine sounds from my car, they all looked also. For 1985, the 2.8 as configured in our Fieros was exceptional.
I like the Ferrari flat 12 and Lambo V12's too.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 12:49pm
Tristan, I think we should limit this discussion to engines we've owned and have actually driven.
With that in mind... My favorite engine was a big block 396 Chevy with ported/polished oval port heads, solid lifter lumpy cam, aluminum hi-rise intake manifold, Holley 4 barrel, headers, "turbo" mufflers, true dual exhaust with 2 1/2" tail pipes exiting out the side of the car in front of the rear tires. ('67 Chevelle SS396)
Talk about gobs of torque, and the rough idle with clacking solid lifters and a short exhaust system sounded magnificent!
Ah, the good old days...
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Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 1:18pm
Patrick wrote:
Tristan, I think we should limit this discussion to engines we've owned and have actually driven.
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Oh Patty, that doesn't seem fair to someone who is just starting out on life and still in school, Tristan has the chance to get what he wants
and you Patty don't, only flashbacks from about 40 years ago
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Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 2:08pm
My first car 58 PACKARD HAWK 289 SUPERCHARGED
Back then Packard and Studebaker merged, the Packard hawk was the same as Studebaker Golden Hawk, just the front nose was different.
Pic was shot in Stanley Park in 1962
Distinctive Packard Hawk features rarely seen in Studebakers also included all-leather seating with matching interior trim made of Naugahyde. Dashboards
displayed Stewart Warner tachometer and supercharger manifold pressure gauges. The speedometer showed a top speed of 160 mph, and it was published that
this car could flat-out run faster top end than the American-made sports cars of the Big Three.
My favorite engines would be SUPERCHARGED
Ford GT 40 SUPERCHARGED
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Corvette LS9 SUPERCHARGED
My first and last car SUPERCHARGED (that's music to my ears)
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 3:17pm
Patrick wrote:
Tristan, I think we should limit this discussion to engines we've owned and have actually driven.
With that in mind... My favorite engine was a big block 396 Chevy with ported/polished oval port heads, solid lifter lumpy cam, aluminum hi-rise intake manifold, Holley 4 barrel, headers, "turbo" mufflers, true dual exhaust with 2 1/2" tail pipes exiting out the side of the car in front of the rear tires. ('67 Chevelle SS396)
Talk about gobs of torque, and the rough idle with clacking solid lifters and a short exhaust system sounded magnificent!
Ah, the good old days...
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Yeah, so that limits me to the Ford 289, Chevy 2.8L, Chevy 305 and Dodge 287. WOOT.
No, post any images. Another engine I like, and that probably very few here have heard of, was Isuzu's 60 degree V12. At over 13000RPM and 700HP, the thing was beyond ridiculous, especially considering Isuzu's reputation as a safe, sensible car company. The engines were designed for the Lotus race team, though Lotus decided to play it safe and take less extreme, but more reliable Honda engines for their team instead. A few of the engines eventually worked their way into the Cojo concepts, one sits on a stand, surrounded by glass in Isuzu's museum, and reportedly one was accidentally sold off to the public, although that seems to be more urban myth than proven fact.
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Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 3:28pm
Patrick wrote:
Talk about gobs of torque, and the rough idle with clacking solid lifters and a short exhaust system sounded magnificent!
Ah, the good old days...
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Sounds like your old DUKE
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Posted By: kharmata
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 4:20pm
May fav.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=N8TXMUaC9Os&feature=related - SuperCharged miniature
V8 (link no worky - copy & paste the one below)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8TXMUaC9Os&feature=related
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 6:06pm
Car-2-Lo wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Talk about gobs of torque, and the rough idle with clacking solid lifters and a short exhaust system sounded magnificent!
Ah, the good old days...
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Sounds like your old DUKE
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Oh don't I wish!
I listened to a bunch of Chevy engines with lumpy idles on YouTube. This one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x9XzFYu91M&playnext=1&list=PLBD6F13A18FE895DD&index=45&fmt=18 - Here sounds very similar to my ol' 396... almost as good.
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 8:36am
kharmata wrote:
May fav.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? V8 (link no worky - copy & paste the one below)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8TXMUaC9Os&feature=relat ed | That thing is pretty awesome, I've seen it before.
Another fairly small supercharged V is the V16 in the BRM-16.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE
At 1.5L, the thing still sounds big and burly. 550HP, can rev to 12000RPM, and dry-sumped and supercharged. All in the '50s. FANTASTIC little engine.
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Posted By: kharmata
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 12:16pm
How do they do this with a V10???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdWlnLM8Rmw - Honda
Indy
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 11:47pm
I have the audio to that video on my iPod, actually. lol
V10's are my favourite engine type... The Porsche V10 that sits in the back of the Porsche Carrera GT (My favourite car of all time) is about the only engine I've ever heard that literally sings as it revs. Many engines can sound whiny, or brutal, or loud, but the Carrera GT... It just sounds beautiful.
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Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 11:48pm
Patrick
didnt you drive that same configuration in a caprice or impala in high school...... i seem to remember you and a buddy running big blocks
M
------------- Marcel 86SE V6 Auto
85SE V6 Auto
85 2m4
soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed
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Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 11:53pm
Mine and owned
1969 302 z28 solid lifter engine c/w turbo 400 tranny with 2500 rpm stall hotshot converter installed in my 1965 malibu ss convertible..
Car needed a roll cage though!!!!
Can you say adrenaline
M
------------- Marcel 86SE V6 Auto
85SE V6 Auto
85 2m4
soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 12:36am
marcelvdgn wrote:
Patrick
didnt you drive that same configuration in a caprice or impala in high school...... i seem to remember you and a buddy running big blocks
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Wow, I'm really impressed with your memory, Marcel.
Holy smokes, that was back in 1974 (a year after we graduated from Templeton) that I had my first car, a '67 Chev Caprice, and Paul Sartorello had his '67 Chev Impala SS. You're right about the engines as well. Paul bought a brand new LS7 454 and put that beast in his Impala SS. I bought the 396 that was in his Impala, and reworked the heads and changed the cam and added all the rest of the other goodies to the engine when I dropped it into the Caprice (which I had also installed a positrack and 4:10 gears). That same 396 eventually ended up in my '67 Chevelle SS396.
As quick as my Chevelle was, Paul's Impala was an absolute MONSTER with that ultra high performance 454. We had some pretty wild street races on east Hastings Street and along Kingsway in Burnaby against assorted Hemi's and 429 Cobras, etc. (No, I wouldn't street race like that again in this day and age.)
Here's the old '67 Caprice somewhere on the road to Penticton, possibly in 1975.
Johnny, you realize we're dating ourselves by posting the years these pictures were taken. However, as old as my picture is, your picture from 1962 is ancient! Beautiful supercharged Packard Hawk though!
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Posted By: beken
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 11:28am
Seeing as we're posting up old pictures....
Gee, that Fiero looks the same now as when it was brand new. Can't say the same about the other two cars.
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 12:13pm
Aw, cool pictures! I'm stoked at the success of the thread!
And Patrick, it kinda seemed like your post seemed to imply you drove recklessly and fast when you were younger... Weird.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 12:42pm
Romeo wrote:
And Patrick, it kinda seemed like your post seemed to imply you drove recklessly and fast when you were younger... Weird.
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Occasionally I drove "fast" in a straight line for a very short duration. These races would be over in a matter of seconds.
And there was a whole lot less traffic on the roads than there is today.
Seriously, I wouldn't say I was all that "reckless".
Having said that, the scariest experience I ever had going fast was one day while driving around in my Chevelle with some young neighborhood girl. I thought I'd impress her with some pinned-to-the-back-of-the-seat acceleration. (Young guys have no sense of what really impresses a girl.)
So I was going "through the gears" and had just stuck 'er into third gear when some car pulled out of a side street right in front of me. He all of a sudden heard/saw me coming at some gawd-awful speed towards him... and he stopped. Yes, he stopped directly in front of me!
All I could do was jam on the brakes and brace for impact against his driver's door! Just before plowing into him, he came to his senses (probably the sound on my four tires screaming bloody murder screeching across the pavement woke him up) and he hit his gas pedal and just barely cleared the intersection before I skidded to a stop well beyond where he had been sitting a split second previously.
Scared the crap out of me (and the girl). I never did anything quite so stupid again.
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Posted By: kharmata
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 12:58pm
Loved my 1965 Convertible GTO, 389 Big Block with Tri-power
intake and turbo 400 3 speed. Did 0-60 in 1st gear,
105Mph in second but then couldn't stop with those nasty
drum brakes
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 1:32pm
kharmata wrote:
turbo 400 3 speed. Did 0-60 in 1st gear, 105Mph in second... |
Sounds like you had the same tranny and gearing as I originally had in my Caprice. With 2:73 gearing (before I swapped over to 4:10 gears), that baby could go awfully fast on the freeway.
Sweet GTO, Kevin! How about a picture of it with YOU in the picture as well!
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Posted By: kharmata
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 1:38pm
Patrick wrote:
Sweet GTO, Kevin! How about a
picture of it with YOU in the picture as well!
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Thanks Patrick - It did love to go fast alright. Otherwise
no one could keep me still long enough to take a picture
back in those days I guess.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 2:03pm
marcelvdgn wrote:
Mine and owned
1969 302 z28 solid lifter engine c/w turbo 400 tranny with 2500 rpm stall hotshot converter installed in my 1965 malibu ss convertible..
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Come on Marcel, we need a picture... with YOU in it!
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Posted By: kharmata
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 3:06pm
Patrick wrote:
[QUOTE=marcelvdgn]
Come on Marcel, we need a picture... with YOU in it!
| Patrick, what's your obsession
with people - I thought this was about motors and such...?
Must be feeling a bit dated all on your own eh?
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Posted By: Car-2-Lo
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 3:39pm
Maybe we all want to see what Marcel looked with dark hair
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 3:44pm
kharmata wrote:
Patrick, what's your obsession with people - I thought this was about motors and such...? Must be feeling a bit dated all on your own eh?
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Blame Johnny. He turned a so-so thread into something much more interesting with his photograph from 1962.
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Posted By: Dawg
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 4:04pm
Isn't a 302 a Ford engine? :)
The Dawg
marcelvdgn wrote:
Mine and owned
1969 302 z28 solid lifter engine c/w turbo 400 tranny with 2500 rpm stall hotshot converter installed in my 1965 malibu ss convertible..
Car needed a roll cage though!!!!
Can you say adrenaline
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 4:21pm
Dawg wrote:
Isn't a 302 a Ford engine? :)
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Who cares about Fords.
For those who aren't familiar with it, Chevrolet had a fantastic high revving http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/camaros/302.htm - 302 cubic inch small block back in the late 60's.
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 6:36pm
Mopar>Ford>Chevy. Sorry Patty, it's just a fact. lol
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 6:54pm
Romeo wrote:
Mopar>Ford>Chevy. Sorry Patty, it's just a fact. lol
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Not in this universe.
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Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 7:01pm
Well I may not have been around long enough to have some cool old muscle car but I will throw in my owned and (mostly) loved 300 hp V8
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Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 11:36pm
Picture to follow as i have it framed at my office .... will scan and publish,,,,,,,,, and yes i have hair in the picture, M
------------- Marcel 86SE V6 Auto
85SE V6 Auto
85 2m4
soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed
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Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 18 November 2010 at 11:39pm
Patrick, thanks for posting the pic of the zapper, mine was identical with MT Valve covers, M
------------- Marcel 86SE V6 Auto
85SE V6 Auto
85 2m4
soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 19 November 2010 at 3:05pm
The Northstar is a pretty gnarley engine, no denying that.
I'm going to go ahead and add a couple more GM's I'm sure people have heard of: The LS7 and the LSx.
The LS7, widely adored by engine swappers and Corvette Z06 owners, was a 7.0L (427ci) pushrod V8, with no thought given to price - it was to be the best damn V8 GM could make. At 505HP, 475ibs-ft of torque, weighing in at 405ibs and spinning happily all the way to 7250RPM, the thing was a monster. Dry sumped, aluminum heads/block, molybdenum rings, port fuel-injected, titanium intake valves, sodium filled stainless steel exhaust valves, headers and coil-on-plug ignition, the engine was not only phenominally powerful, but very reliable (VERY reliable - they can take 1000HP all day long) and also could manage 30MPG in the Corvette.
If the LS7 was a surgeon's scalpel, the LSx can be thought of as a brutish cudgel. Available in either 454ci or 512ci, the LSx doesn't have much technology of any kind. It's a large, heavy iron block built with a singular purpose - to be invincible. GM's drag prototype was shown in 2006, and on the stock internals, it was doing 2200HP. The last I heard was back in late 2008, but it was apparently still running those stock internals just fine, and had been run for a total of 120 hours during various events and dyno sessions. Hard to deny an engine that manages over two-thousand horsepower without complaint.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 19 November 2010 at 5:22pm
Romeo wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and add a couple more GM's I'm sure people have heard of: The LS7 and the LSx.
The LS7, widely adored by engine swappers and Corvette Z06 owners, was a 7.0L (427ci) pushrod V8, with no thought given to price - it was to be the best damn V8 GM could make. At 505HP, 475ibs-ft of torque, weighing in at 405ibs and spinning happily all the way to 7250RPM, the thing was a monster...
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Just to confuse the issue, the LS7 designation was originally a 454 offered back in the early 70's as a crate engine. (Note the bolded last sentence below.) This was the engine that my buddy put into his '67 Impala SS.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Big-Block_engine - Wikipedia :
You'd think with all the combinations of numbers and letters available that GM wouldn't have had to give two completely different engines the same name!
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Posted By: marcelvdgn
Date Posted: 19 November 2010 at 9:29pm
Pic as requested......quality, questionable......car, Fabulous. Great memories.
------------- Marcel 86SE V6 Auto
85SE V6 Auto
85 2m4
soon to be sleeper 3.8sc 5 speed
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 19 November 2010 at 11:11pm
Who's that hairy guy?
Digging the dual antennas. Great for that symmetrical look!
Gotta love those old Chevs.
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 20 November 2010 at 8:35pm
Oh. My. God. Marcel, if I didn't know, I'd have a tough time knowing that was you! You have more facial hair than I do! Car is phenominal.
And yeah Patty, GM is rather silly that way. I knew they had an older engine named the LS7 as well, but as cool as it is, I love the modern LS7 more.
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Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 9:16pm
Lets see favorite cool engines, I'd say the Northstar's and 3.4 TDC motors. Anything GM/Chevy with Twin Cams.
Late model cool engine is the new I believe 3.0 L DOHC V8 that is pump gas runnable, 11,000rpm red-line and makes something like 550hp, I can't remember the car that it comes in though, it was on Top Gear in that funny sports car that has no body just a frame 2 seats and a mid engine motor. Wait, I think I remember the Aerial Atom. Really amazing motor. Would be great in a Fiero as the motor is tiny.
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88 Fiero GT 5spd V6
Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd.
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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 7:02pm
http://www.mountune.com/Racing/Engines/RST-V8 - Speaking of high-revving, small displacement V8's...
The Roush Performance designed RST-V8. 2.4L, and weighs just 90Kg. Has five valves per cylinder, which I'm guessing helps it breathe at it's 10,500RPM HP peak (And it can continue revving up another thousand, if you need). Speaking of power peak, how many ponies did they wedge into that 2400cc motor? Well, if you stay away from forced induction, a paltry 380HP. With the supercharger strapped on? North of 500HP.
Would be quite the quick little Fiero...
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