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PCA-CWR Autox #1 - May 28th 2011

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Topic: PCA-CWR Autox #1 - May 28th 2011
Posted By: Colby
Subject: PCA-CWR Autox #1 - May 28th 2011
Date Posted: 02 April 2011 at 12:27am
It's still nearly two months away, but I just noticed this on their http://forum.pca-cwr.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3592 - forum :

Originally posted by Rich_Sandor Rich_Sandor wrote:

I'm pleased to announce our first autocross event of 2011 for Saturday May 28th! (The weekend after May long weekend)

We are making a few improvements to the event, the first being that we will no longer be doing registration and payment onsite. From now on, this must all be done online via Karelo, just like UBC club events. This will eliminate the clumsy morning registration.

This event is capped at 50 drivers. Pre-registration via Karelo is mandatory. Cost is $40 per driver. (HST is included in price) There will be absolutely no refunds. We will only issue a credit for future autocross events if you cancel within 24 hours or more in advance. If you "no show" for the event, we will not refund or credit you. If you are not sure you can attend, please do not pre-register. Pre-registration on Karelo is the only way to sign up for this event. Those showing up with cash on the morning of the event will be turned away.

REGISTRATION LINK HERE: http://www.karelo.com/register.php?BID= ... 10#Ev10536

Please note: You do not need to be a Porsche Club member or own a Porsche to participate. We welcome everyone to join us! Friends and family are welcome to come and spectate as well: there is no need to sign-up if you just want to watch, however EVERYONE that is on-site MUST sign the liability waivers.

There is absolutely ZERO TOLERANCE for any burnouts, reckless driving, or loud stereos on Ford Road at any time. Anyone caught breaking this rule will be immediately, and permanently, banned from all 3 local autocross clubs without warning.

Please obey the stop signs abeam the runway, and wait for any aircraft that are taking off or landing before resuming.

Gates will be open by 8:00am. Please don't arrive too early as a line will form on Ford Road, however you must be onsite and checked-in by 9:00am, or you will not run. The last run will be finished by 4:30pm. If you drive, you must work. If you cannot work, or need to leave early early, it must be prearranged with us, or else you will not be welcome back.

Free instruction and a limited amount of loaner helmets are available for novice drivers! Drivers of all skill levels are encouraged to come out!

You are welcome to bring your own helmet as long as it is a 2000 or newer model M or SA helmet.

Please make sure your vehicle is free of all loose objects, including your trunk compartment, and that your battery is firmly bolted down in place. Any vehicles found to be mechanically unsafe will not be allowed to run, and no refund will be given.

Please contact Rich Sandor at mailto:autocross@pca-cwr.org - autocross@pca-cwr.org , or post here, if you have any questions!



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Replies:
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 02 April 2011 at 8:55am
Too far away for me to consider...currently I can:)...thanks for post Colby

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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 02 April 2011 at 11:33am
Heh, at least this way everyone should be aware of the date well in advance. 

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Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 02 April 2011 at 12:35pm
I'll be done school that week so I should be able to make it. I'll know
for sure closer to the date.

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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 4:39pm
i will be there... challenging all Fieros. 



Gary


Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 9:34pm

Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

i will be there... challenging all Fieros. 



Gary



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Brian (Bassman)

86 GT Fastback 3.2L

2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive

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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 11:59pm

Originally posted by karnak karnak wrote:

i will be there... challenging all Fieros.

Them's fighting words for the mighty duke!

 



Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 5:12pm
you bet! all i have to so now is remember what side of the cone to drive around...




Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 18 May 2011 at 12:34am
I suppose I'll go and knock Patty down a peg or two...

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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 May 2011 at 12:39am

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

I suppose I'll go and knock Patty down a peg or two...

Bring it on, brother...

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 18 May 2011 at 12:55am
Really looking forward to this! Just 10 more days.


Also, Rich recently posted this on their forum:

Originally posted by RichS RichS wrote:

We are now over 50% full!

If you want to come, make sure you sign up on Karelo and reserve your spot!!



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Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 9:09pm
Baaah. Damn. Need more money on the credit!

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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 10:01am

I keep holding off signing up because of the weather. Yeah yeah, I'm a wimp. I've really been looking forward to getting on the track again this year, but I want to be on a dry track. Decisions, decisions...

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 10:15am
Hey, at least there's no chance of snow or ice this time.


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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 10:29am

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

Hey, at least there's no chance of snow or ice this time.

Are you absolutely sure about that? Snow was forecast for parts of the Okanagan today.  Seriously!



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 11:39am
Will they take people who just show up if there's still room?

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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 12:06pm

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

Will they take people who just show up if there's still room?

Doesn't look like it.

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

...I just noticed this on their http://forum.pca-cwr.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3592 - forum :

Originally posted by Rich_Sandor Rich_Sandor wrote:

I'm pleased to announce our first autocross event of 2011 for Saturday May 28th! (The weekend after May long weekend)

We are making a few improvements to the event, the first being that we will no longer be doing registration and payment onsite. From now on, this must all be done online via Karelo, just like UBC club events. This will eliminate the clumsy morning registration.

 



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 12:47pm

UGH. That's weak. I blew all I can afford on car parts, and I don't like to spend more on credit than what I actually have available to pay off...

Damn Porsche Club. lol



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 1:01pm

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

UGH. That's weak. I blew all I can afford on car parts, and I don't like to spend more on credit than what I actually have available to pay off...

I don't see the connection between that and wanting to pay the morning of the autocross.  It's going to cost you X number of dollars no matter what.

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

Damn Porsche Club. lol

Actually, I like this change in their registration rules.  I believe this was done to prevent a repeat of last year where about 30 people turned up for an autocross at the last moment, and there were WAY too many people on the track that day (which of course resulted in very few runs for everyone).

Here's what I posted on the http://www.pca-cwr.org/forums/official-pca-events-and-issues/porsche-club-autocross-finale-sunday-sept-5th/ - Porsche Club's forum after that particular event. No, I'm not taking credit for the change in their registration rules.  I heard from good authority that many other people had complained behind the scenes about this same thing to the powers that be.

Quote Rich, I have a question as a newb. :

I came out to the August autocross as an observer as I was dog-sitting my girlfriend's husky for a month (which I brought to the track that day) and therefore couldn't actually participate. There were about 40 cars and everyone got in eight runs apiece.

This time around I came to the track (minus the dog!) and was able to participate. There were four of us from the Fiero club running our cars and we all enjoyed ourselves thoroughly. However, the only disappointment from a participant's point of view was that we only got to run a total of five times apiece because there were so many more entrants at this particular event. What was there, at least 70 cars?

I know you're caught in somewhat of an awkward position, but at what point would you consider turning away people who decide at the last moment to come out? Again, from a participant's perspective, it's not nearly as much fun when the number of runs are severely limited due to the large number of entrants. It also makes for a lot more waiting around between runs.

Please don't interpret this as a complaint. I'm just genuinely interested how you (as the organizer of the event) plan to keep everyone happy as the popularity of this event continues to grow. Thanks.

 



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 3:18pm
Because I've already blown what I allocated to my credit on car parts. I have money left on debit, but until my credit bill comes, I haven't any means of paying online.

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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 3:27pm

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

Because I've already blown what I allocated to my credit on car parts. I have money left on debit, but until my credit bill comes, I haven't any means of paying online.

So you're saying your credit card is maxed out and you can't go now, even though Colby posted what I linked to (in regards to the new registration rules) almost two months ago?

Kids!

 



Posted By: Romeo
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 3:40pm

Hey, I didn't read about it until about a month back. Besides, last year we paid at the event. I assumed it was still an option. And I needed those ridiculous tires and rims. I needed them.

Somebody wanna buy my admission and get paid back in cash on race day?



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Never shift into reverse without a back-up plan.


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 3:58pm

Originally posted by Romeo Romeo wrote:

Somebody wanna buy my admission and get paid back in cash on race day?

I would've already offered to do that, except I'm not 100% sure I'm going to sign up myself if the weather's going to be crappy.

Do you want me to sign you up and pay for you no matter what the weather is like, etc? If so, I'd be happy enough to do it for you.

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 12:35pm
Forecast now says less than 1 mm. To me, that doesn't sound like anything to worry about.


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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 12:40pm

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

Forecast now says less than 1 mm. To me, that doesn't sound like anything to worry about.

It's the two feet of water sitting on the track that has me concerned.

I'm still undecided about going, but I am preparing the '84 today just in case.

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 12:44pm
Yeah, but that water is pretty much always there unless it was sunny multiple days in a row. And you can be sure they'll try to make a course which avoids them.

Just think, if you don't go you'll lose to my duke no matter what. You don't want that, do you?


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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 12:58pm

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

Just think, if you don't go you'll lose to my duke no matter what. You don't want that, do you?

That would indeed be horrible.  Almost as bad as losing to the wild-child driving his "Gretchin".

I want to go, I'm really looking forward to getting back on the track after (pardon the near pun) whetting my appetite for autocross last year.

 



Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 1:18pm

Well, I guess I'm not going now.

I went to sign up and this is what I found at the site...

I thought that "10:15" would've meant PM, but apparently it meant AM. It's my own fault for waiting 'til the last day, but you'd think they could've made the cut-off time a bit more clear, especially as this is the first time that entrants HAVE to register online.

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 1:28pm
There's contact info at the bottom there, maybe if you email Rich and explain your confusion he'll let you in. It's worth trying at least.


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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 1:30pm

I might try that, although I was trying to post on their forum (which I've done before) and I'm having trouble signing in. Grrrrr...

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 1:43pm
The new one at pca-cwr.org? For whatever reason they've decided to now limit it to paying members only...

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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 1:49pm

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

The new one at pca-cwr.org? For whatever reason they've decided to now limit it to paying members only...

Oh for suck fakes...

Mah oh man, they sent me an email in March confirming subscription to their newsletter. You'd think at some point they could've mentioned that non-club members have been unceremoniously turfed from their forum.

I guess that helps explain why there are a grand total of five posts in http://www.pca-cwr.org/forums/official-pca-events-and-issues/pca-cwr-autocross-1-may-28th-2011/ - the thread at their forum about tomorrow's autocross (and four of those posts are by the head guy, Rich).

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

I guess that helps explain why there are a grand total of five posts in http://www.pca-cwr.org/forums/official-pca-events-and-issues/pca-cwr-autocross-1-may-28th-2011/ - the thread at their forum about tomorrow's autocross (and four of those posts are by the head guy, Rich).

Yeah, and the 5th is by someone not able to post there anymore. You may want to check out this: http://porsche.jeffgrant.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3592 - http://porsche.jeffgrant.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3592


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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 2:29pm

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

You may want to check out this:

http://porsche.jeffgrant.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3592 - http://porsche.jeffgrant.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3592

Interesting. I like this guy's post...

Quote Oh, well. Their board, their rules. FIDO - F@# It and Drive On.

...

 



Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 May 2011 at 3:55pm

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

...maybe if you email Rich

I emailed Rich and I got a response.

June 5th will be my first opportunity to race this year.

Have fun tomorrow, guys.

 



Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 9:16pm

No track report from the Colbster?

 



Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 10:55pm
Let me chime in and say it was a great day, and event, and all in all was bone dry.

Colby needed to check out his eyelids for a bit. i do eagerly await his feedback also.

the course was like it was built for the Fiero with some serious hairpin turns and other tight bends. all the areas of the track were set to avoid the standing water (other than where i parked)

Gary


Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 11:10pm

Sounds good, Gary. How many runs did everyone get?

 



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 12:35am
Yeah, I was exhausted when I got home and fell asleep on the couch. I think I got a sun burn.

There were three runs in the morning and 3 more in the afternoon, but in the afternoon we did two laps of the track, so basically we got 9 laps in total. The course was tighter than usual and had an annoying hairpin turn in it which was a bit of a workout with the Fiero's steering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7LVDI-Rfls - one of my afternoon runs.


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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 8:20am
Nice run...they had that tight, and that stupid U-turn with the wall of cones...lol

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2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive

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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 10:23am

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

The course was tighter than usual and had an annoying hairpin turn in it which was a bit of a workout with the Fiero's steering.

Colby, how about a picture of the track sheet? It's nice to have a record in these threads of how each course was laid out.



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 11:43am
OK. It's not completely to scale as you might be able to tell from the video.



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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 12:01pm

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

... as you might be able to tell from the video.

I gotta say, that watching the video without any knowledge of the track layout is completely confusing (for me anyway). The picture of the track sheet helps a lot! Thanks.

 



Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 12:04pm

Originally posted by Cheese Cheese wrote:

... but in the afternoon we did two laps of the track

So how did they work out the best times for the day when there were two different distances covered?



Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by Patrick Patrick wrote:

So how did they work out the best times for the day when there were two different distances covered?


I'm guessing they'll just put up two sets of results as if it were two separate events.


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