Corvette Club Autocross - Sept 22, 2012
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Topic: Corvette Club Autocross - Sept 22, 2012
Posted By: Patrick
Subject: Corvette Club Autocross - Sept 22, 2012
Date Posted: 31 August 2012 at 1:23pm
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Okay Colby, I expect to see you out there! Let's see a bunch of Fieros at this event. Should be a fun way to end this year's autocross season (for most of us). Come on out!
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Hi all,
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Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 31 August 2012 at 7:04pm
Unfortunately I won't be around that day.  Gary, I
expect you to find that gas pedal and keep it floored! You can keep up to (and pass) Gary in his Corvette. He's your target. 
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 01 September 2012 at 9:28pm
I'll be there. 
------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |
Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 02 September 2012 at 9:22am
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I should be able to make it there.
It'd only be my second autox of the year,  ------------- -Harrison 88GT 3800 SC1 F23 5-speed Chilliwack |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:32pm
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ok. i sent an e-mail to Vic. it will be fun to mop the floor with Colby and his Formula.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 05 September 2012 at 10:25pm
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That makes two of us with that plan. Heh heh, just kidding Colby ... or am I? Harrison, be great to see you out there again. Al, sorry you can't make it this time. Where's Brian? When's Brian checking in?
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Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 07 September 2012 at 1:28pm
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Just sent Vic an email.
See you there ------------- -Harrison 88GT 3800 SC1 F23 5-speed Chilliwack |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 08 September 2012 at 10:26pm
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Excellent! I've been in touch with another Fiero owner who hopes to make it out as well. This could be good.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 13 September 2012 at 12:59pm
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I will see and let you know, considering day insurance this weekend and maybe a fun cruise on Sunday and see how my car is running...my concern is my clutch and the fluid contamination, and ifn the weather will turn after this week. ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 17 September 2012 at 3:53pm
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Brian, was no news good news? I didn't hear from you on the weekend, so I'm hoping this indicates that your clutch (and/or the fluid flushing) was okay.
The weather this weekend is supposed to be a continuation of what we're experiencing right now. In other words... Great!
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 17 September 2012 at 5:01pm
Woo hoo! Getting excited. 
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 17 September 2012 at 5:06pm
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I was a busy weekend, I went today and charging the battery and will attempt tomorrow and see where we are at...until then ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 17 September 2012 at 10:33pm
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Good luck!
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 5:30pm
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Hi Guys, Cars at home, paid for a oil change and now remember why I do it myself usually...I will put the R888's on Friday, the clutch is the concern and don't want to spend the money on DOT5 especially when she is back in storage on Monday. I emailed Vic and said I'll be there...not sure all day but I'll be there...meet for breakfast? ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:26pm
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Excellent! And I'm still working on getting a 5th Fiero to come out.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:45pm
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ok. so meet for Scottish food at 7:30?
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:56pm
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Oatmeal and a McHaggis burger... Breakfast of Champions!
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:59pm
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lol...see you then ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 18 September 2012 at 10:09pm
ok. i will get ready...
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 8:18am
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Well, certainly don't think I'll make it a whole day, this cold in now in my chest that I caught in Winnipeg. I don't have the energy to put on the R888's, so I'll be out driving lightly on my worn tread on my Enkei rims...see you in the morning. ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 9:58am
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Brian, I'd be happy to come by and help put the R888's on your car. I'm leaving shortly to play hockey, and then this afternoon I'll be swapping over my own track tires/wheels, but if you like I could come over right after dinner... 7pm or so. Just let me know.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 10:20am
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Thanks for the offer, let's chat later and see how I feel...I need to get out and get some fresh air, maybe a bike ride on the Urban trail, might help get me going:) ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 10:38am
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Brian you have to go, you are like the spokes person for Fiero auto crossing. Skip the bike ride, and get some rest. Or better yet, go to the doctor make sure its not a serious chest infection. Then drink lots of really hot coffee. With my 4.9 heading off to FOY racing, I will be ready for next season to try my hand at Auto cross again. (car is being shipped on a flat deck for the new power plant to be installed, will have an extra 100hp over what I have now) Patrick can come beat down your door and install the tires/wheels for you, then threaten to take your car to the track if you don't go. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 11:09am
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lol...I'll be going, and I have been sitting most of the week, rested just not shaking it. It almost like alergies kicked in also, picked up nasel spray yesterday as the right side of my head is hurting and weezing a bit today...really feeling lazy, can tell I miss working out, 3 weeks and got soft real quick:(. Good to hear about your car David, where is FOY? ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Capt Fiero
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 11:48am
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They are in Roy Washington about
300kms south east of here. I was there last week and really liked it. Lots of fast Fieros. Owners son has a454 big block fiero. Also they built a 500hp 4.9 car. Mine should be about 300hp and 400lbs of torque. Should be really fun. ------------- Capt Fiero 88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 4:18pm
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Brian, I just got back from hockey etc, and I'm heading outside now to swap over my wheels/tires. It takes me awhile to do this, so I'll be busy for a couple of hours. I'll check back when I'm done to see if you want a hand putting your R888's on.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 4:23pm
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Hey Pat, I have been on my ass all day...I'll get out and start, K can help if needed when she gets home...having a hard time just getting anything going...lol
------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 7:27pm
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Cars set and loaded...Kerstin is still working so calling in for Pizza:)...see you all at Micky D's ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 7:39pm
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Just got in... So Brian, the R888's are on, eh? Wonderful! See you all for breaky tomorrow.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 9:30pm
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Car loaded. mop included.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 6:54am
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A little damp this morning, just enough to keep the dust down. However, it's not expected to rain today... so game on! I hope you got lots of sleep Colby. I'm going to catch you and your Formula today.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 4:36pm
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It actually was a near perfect day for autocross. The track was dry, and we didn't get baked in the sun. I suspect I put quite a scare into Colby this morning. At the lunch break (after four runs apiece), I had Colby by two seconds! But give the Colbster credit, he turned on the afterburners in the afternoon and just smoked me. Good driving Colby! Everyone did well... Brian, Harrison, Gary, Colby, and his friend Kris. I believe Gary has a photo of the times (as the Corvette club doesn't post them), and I'm sure there'll be a few videos uploaded as well. It's possible that's the last time the mighty duke will race. I'm hoping to have an '86 GT ready to go by next year, but I move with glacial speed so who knows.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 5:14pm
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yep. great day. i was a little off my game in the morning but got the lead out in the afternoon. i will post a video a bit later but here are the times
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 5:56pm
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At the risk of destroying the formatting of this thread, I've edited Gary's image somewhat and enlarged it. It's too bad that the times aren't posted the way the Porsche club does it, as with their list we can also see what cars that people are driving.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 6:14pm
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Awesome guys...I am now relaxing in the warmth of my fleece pj's and will enjoy a movie night and fight this cold:). I will post a vid later...cheers ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:07pm
| What is Gary's time? My old eyes can't make it out. |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:32pm
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oh.. that would be a 60.798 - not as good as Brian in his Fiero but it was a time i could be proud of.
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:36pm
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It was a good day. Not too hot, and the course, while still pretty much the same as last time, was opened up a bit and was a bit more fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5CieefNTo - Here's my video, looks like I lost a bit of time in the slalom. Looking forward to seeing Brian and Harrison's videos. I'm uploading a comparison video between me and my dad. It's surprising how close it is. ------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:37pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyaldjFEiA4&feature=youtube_gdata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyaldjFEiA4&feature=youtu be_gdata ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:37pm
1.8 sec behind Brian is a darn good time. More gas, less brake next time and you'll CRUSH him. lol!
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:38pm
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the Youtube uploader tells me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsiFpfB2Nk&feature=youtu.be - this is the link to my run. i was goofing around a little with the data collector and had some couupt info. this is my best run with some older data tossed in for effect. it shows how quick i was going (mostly)
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:42pm
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Look at you GEEKS and your fancy video...feeling outdated...lol ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:44pm
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lol, all you need is a phone with Android or an iPhone so you can record some data to go with it.
------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:46pm
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Well, a better camera would help also:)...
------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:47pm
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Gary, you could have easily CRUSHED Brian. ;)
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:49pm
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My run vs. my dad's run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz6GGb8FzjM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz6GGb8FzjM ------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |
Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:51pm
Mine's from 2008 ------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:52pm
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Hehehe sure thing. Brain is freakin good. You better give it a go.
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Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:58pm
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Brian says I suck and can learn from you guys....so it's up to you. |
Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 8:40pm
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Today was fun, I was finally getting the hang of it towards the end when my times steadily got better. I will get some videos up soon. ------------- -Harrison 88GT 3800 SC1 F23 5-speed Chilliwack |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 12:47am
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Gary, are you bragging about your cognitive abilities again?
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 8:18am
Is Allan trying to get us going?...after a really enjoyable day and all to make this a competition?...Wow is all I can say ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 8:39am
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Too funny. Patrick, i guess i am stating the obvious. Brian, you know Al.
He enjoys a close match. I have a ton of work to do before i do any crushing. 
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Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 3:59pm
Close matches are the best! So much fun!  Gary, we
will get you a headcrusher T-shirt for next season.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 6:36pm
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------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 7:39pm
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Here's my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smN5JbrQbck - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smN5JbrQbck
I think the data is a little out of sync with the video. And as you can see by the mini map, the iPhones internal gps really isn't very good... ------------- -Harrison 88GT 3800 SC1 F23 5-speed Chilliwack |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 9:16pm
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Thought I would put all the videos in one post to make it easier to compare them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5CieefNTo - Colby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsiFpfB2Nk&feature=youtu.be - Gary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smN5JbrQbck - Harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyaldjFEiA4&feature=youtube_gdata - Brian Colby, can you explain why the data in your video is properly synched up whereas the data lags behind in both Gary's and Harrison's videos? Another question related to the first... If the "lag" time is consistant throughout the video, is there a way to simply shift the data in the editing software to match it up better with the video action?
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 9:17pm
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------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 11:27pm
In my dad's video, the data is from a slower lap, and in Harrison's video, the iPhone's GPS doesn't seem to provide enough accurate data for what we're doing here (might be fine on the street or a real race track). I used an external 5Hz GPS to get my data, and it's the right data for the lap. http://www.mytrackmaster.com/#SessionPlace:ag1teXRyYWNrbWFzdGVychsLEgRVc2VyGMf4QAwLEgdTZXNzaW9uGLmOAww - Check this out. ------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 1:21am
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Aw man, now you tell me! Through the wizardry of video editing I was trying to magically match up the video and the data. I couldn't understand why it would go out of sync in different places on the track. Anyway, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykEb1ijq9sA&feature=youtu.be - Here is the (sort of) re-synched video of Gary's run.
Interesting, but what am I looking at exactly?
I feel bad that all you guys have posted videos of your cars from last Saturday and I didn't take any footage. Well, here's my video from a week and a half ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIHJTfQs8ig&feature=relmfu - Awakened after a long sleep... I'm hoping to have shots of that Fiero on the track next year.
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No wonder!
Is that what you're using to add data to your track videos?
Posted By: D_sensitized
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 8:02am
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It was the first time I used this program for the video/data stuff. there is an option to offset the data when you put it all together but I wasn't sure how to make sure how much to change it. The iPhones GPS is only 1Hz and accurate to like 50 feet or something so makes for some pretty crappy data on small tracks like autoX's. I am looking into getting a better GPS unit so I can have more useful data at the end.
http://www.gps-laptimer.de/Home.html - this is what I used Edit to bring it to this page
------------- -Harrison 88GT 3800 SC1 F23 5-speed Chilliwack |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 9:02am
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Here's something to investigate:
http://www.petreldata.com - petreldata.com I know Mike (the main fella behind this) and he's a super avid autocrosser. My old maxqdata setup was 10Hz and works fine for autox. 1Hz is way too slow. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 27 September 2012 at 11:38pm
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Pictures are posted http://www.flickr.com/photos/bccorvetteclub/sets/72157631640487642/ - Here . Lot's of great shots of Gary's 914/6. This is a good Fiero shot... Colby driving his Formula and Brian's GT sitting in the background.
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 28 September 2012 at 4:35pm
That's a good picture.
Looks like some impressive software, too bad it as much as it does, but I guess it's targeted towards the more serious competitors. What I have now works well enough for me, even if it has some issues. I actually think that 5Hz is just right for Autocross. The issue is that with the amount of error in these devices, you just aren't covering enough distance in 1/10th of a second for that error to be relatively small enough that you can comfortably ignore it. Of course you can always configure the 10Hz units to operate at 5Hz. ------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |