PCA AutoX on Aug 2nd
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Topic: PCA AutoX on Aug 2nd
Posted By: Bassman
Subject: PCA AutoX on Aug 2nd
Date Posted: 06 July 2014 at 8:26pm
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Hey, who's going...really want to make this one:)
http://www.karelo.com/enter_res.php?&BID=374&Ev=14437 ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 07 July 2014 at 12:56am
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I fully expect to be there, but we've got this one here first... http://www.westcoastfieros.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?FID=27&TID=3490&PN=1&get=last - Corvette Club Autocross - Saturday, July 19th |
Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 07 July 2014 at 1:36am
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Yep, should be making it to this one as well, though I'm not going to register yet.
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 22 July 2014 at 10:35pm
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Oops, I think we missed early registration. At least, I did.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 23 July 2014 at 12:24am
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Yeah, it kind of snuck up on us.
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 25 July 2014 at 7:20am
Only $5.00, not much of a savings:) ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 25 July 2014 at 2:50pm
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I registered today. You guys know I love autocross, but geez... $71.66 in total fees. I realize this is a double-pad event, but it wasn't that long ago we were paying $40 to zip around for the day. Weather should be fine...
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 26 July 2014 at 10:19am
I am registered
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 26 July 2014 at 11:49am
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Oh, I know what got you so eager...
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 27 July 2014 at 5:28pm
Yes, the prospect of a sunburn to go with the sticky tires! 
I will bring some water and some of this: 
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 28 July 2014 at 1:31pm
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 28 July 2014 at 3:41pm
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I got an email today from Karelo informing me that they had made a mistake with the GST and will refund the difference. $68.25 was supposed to have been the grand total. I must be slipping... I should've realized immediately that a mistake had been made when I registered.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 28 July 2014 at 8:26pm
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Lol Patrick! I need those arms and that upper body for my steering.
Looking forward to some friendly competition... heh heh 
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 28 July 2014 at 10:38pm
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Has Colby registered yet? He's being awfully quiet. Has he fixed his camber, or are you sworn to secrecy? |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 30 July 2014 at 11:33pm
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The cone of silence has descended upon the Johanson camp. |
Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 31 July 2014 at 12:26am
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I've been kind of busy. I'm registered, but I haven't had time to adjust anything on my car. I've got some odd sounds coming from the right-rear wheel that I need to look at.
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Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 31 July 2014 at 11:13pm
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No autox for me. Playing nurse for a sick friend and now
I'm triple booked for Sat. Will try to drop by late morning - lunch time on Sat for a quick visit. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 11:06pm
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Colby and I were both out today to help Rich set up the course. We were able to make some suggestions. The course is a little different than usual. It's quite... Fiero friendly. Should be fun tomorrow!
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 11:15pm
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It's definitely one of the stranger courses I've seen, but it should be fun. It flows fairly well.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 11:34pm
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With no less than TWO Fieros guys giving input, how else could it have turned out. Gary, get those arms loosened up. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 11:39pm
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Oh yeah, I wanted to mention... When I got to the site at 5 PM or so, there was a big sweeper/vacuum truck just finishing thoroughly cleaning up the entire double pad. The asphalt is cleaner than I've ever seen it. Should be great traction on Saturday. We'll need it! |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 6:23am
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It's a beautiful morning! Looks like I'll finally get an opportunity to wear the gaudy straw hat at an autocross that I bought a couple months ago.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 7:07am
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Wheeeeee! Let's do this!
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Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 11:03am
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Have a great day guys, at work all weekend, not happy as this was to be a mini vacation weekend, going to try for the 9th but not looking good.
I am hiring and need staff, of you know anyone:) ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 5:41pm
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That was a HOT day. Wow. It was fun, but man... I feel dehydrated. Taking care of that right now. Sorry you couldn't make it, Brian. You would've enjoyed the three G-circles.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 6:58pm
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3 G-circles.. indeed I was skeptical. what fun it was!
Missed you Bri! I Will also miss the 9th. I really wanted today to give me the autocross fix I needed for a while and it did not disappoint. Patrick.. are these yours? 
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 7:39pm
Alrighty, here are the links to 3 videos. Please excuse the repetitive nature of the runs... some choppy sound also... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lMCdyke-NE - Inside the Car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DdVHN-D6h4&list=UUFs8mR0LUlnko9LsVz5D5TQ - Hood of the Car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQeLuRzXO70&list=UUFs8mR0LUlnko9LsVz5D5TQ - Door of the car 
Different perspectives... |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 8:26pm
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I was returning to the starting grid after another masterful run, and what did I discover... but Gary adding some kind of magical "Gypsy Juice" to his tires. Caught in the act!
Probably something that brother Al told him to do. Those Johanson's are a shifty lot. |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 9:15pm
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It was indeed hot today. I need more anti-dehydration
juice.
Gary, you drove AWESOMELY today! Keep kicking ass out there. Nice weight loss too - and that helps as well.
Maybe in the off-season you can work on your cameras. 
Some neat views, but the wind noise is a problem. Mind you, sometimes it sounds like you have a turbo so that was kinda cool.
I wish my system was portable from car to car. Just a note about wind noise, in my case the mic is on the floor behind the center console and it still picks up wind noise. Probably more a function of driving over 100+mph with both windows down though. I need to deal with it at some point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIGPHmyjlyE - One lap of ORP |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 9:17pm
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Er... um... well I suppose I could sell you some
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 9:24pm
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Al, I hear what you are saying re the audio. I wish it was easier to get a
good sound. Yours is pretty choppy also... perhaps if it was installed in the engine bay somewhere....even in a box with a little hole in it.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 9:26pm
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Oh my gawd... I think my ears are bleeding!!!!!
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 9:45pm
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 10:01pm
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If you get an separate camera, you can put your phone somewhere safe and use its audio. I considered doing that, but I've found a location that seems to work okay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdEV4PCrH8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdEV4PCrH8 ------------- 88 Formula 5 speed |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 10:44pm
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Not my best time, but entertaining nevertheless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Q9gak6F2A - Showing Colby How I Autocross Viewable in 3D or 2D... and notice the quality audio. |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 10:50pm
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I like that perspective, and the audio is pretty good, but I'm curious what windows/sunroof you have open? When I've shot video from that location with the side windows down, it sounds like hurricane city. |
Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 11:08pm
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It's suction cupped to the almost the back of the tilted-open sunroof. Both side windows are open.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 11:29pm
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Hmmm... I'll have to try it from there. When I've had the camera suction-cupped to the back window looking forward, I liked what I saw but not what I heard. |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 7:37am
It's funny how wind noise gets everywhere. The company I bought my data logger from sells a "dead kitten" mic cover. Apparently no dead kittens were used to make it. lol! (sigh....trying to get a pic to show but it won't) "http://tinyurl.com/lhav8b8" If you guys try a remote mic, be sure to save some fur from your kitties and make your own mic cover.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 11:14am
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i may try a cover of some sort. our cat is in use right now.. but his fur is up for grabbs to get pictures to show up, i have put them in my public drop box folder, copied the public link then surrounded the link with "" that works for me and i make the image small so it fits most monitors if there is a better way, someone pls chime in  |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 11:47am
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The "better way" will be when the forum software is updated and all the features work properly. Colby will be taking care of this... probably after his relocation. Yeah, it's been a little frustrating having to depend on "workarounds" to post images here the last few months... but Colby will fix it! |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 1:23pm
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No combination of quotes or img codes worked for me. So I
put the link in there. I'll add it here too. "http://tinyurl.com/lhav8b8" |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 2:08pm
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Your nephew will be fixing that.
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 4:22pm
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Although not entirely clear on the concept, it appears that Gary has experimented with this idea previously.
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Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 8:48pm
Great try - but the kitty is on the wrong side to prevent wind noise.
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Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 03 August 2014 at 9:45pm
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oh.. i will give that a whirl. next time i give the cat a bath, i will save the fur. it often sticks to my tongue... |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 8:40am
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Oh I am not a happy man...no days off but really happy you guys had fun, looks like I am working also on Aug 9th, not sure I can make that one also.
Enjoy the day all...cheers ------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 9:24am
You should have dashed out at lunch and grabbed a few fun runs like I did. Interesting course.
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Posted By: Colby
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 1:01pm
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I asked Rich if I could take the final results home with me. I scanned the pages in and created a spreadsheet: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75590837/PCA-CWR%20Aug%202%202014.xls - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75590837/PCA-CWR%20Aug%2 02%202014.xls
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 2:24pm
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That was a lot of work... Thanks Colby! Gary, your time was great. I might mention that the "best" time our friend Ken Butcher got in his Vette occurred when he missed the entire last G-circle on his first run! We used to post scans of the course after each autocross, and I think it's time to bring back this tradition. It helps to make sense of the videos posted, plus Colby and I had a hand in designing and setting up this particular course. The stop box was changed by Rich after Colby and I left... and I very much disliked the angle of it. I also added a red arrow to the course map to show where Gary, Colby and I were standing during our track duty. It was dangerous there (before we added a wall of cones) as drivers would come around that G-circle and then for some reason make a beeline for our station!
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His actual best time brings him down quite a few notches... from 23rd to 37th place. 
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 2:36pm
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I tried to do something different with this video upload. It's actually five different runs combined into "one", ummm... memorable run. Make sure Annotations aren't turned off while watching this on YouTube. I've added some descriptive comments. No, it isn't a music video. The song at the start was on the radio while I was waiting my turn to go... and I really like that song so I included a bit of it. And I'm sorry Gary, but there's some For your viewing pleasure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO9v4OxUAtM - PCA-CWR Autocross - August 2, 2014
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language used again. Posted By: AllanJ
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 4:23pm
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Cool vid compilation, Patrick. I thought the stop
box angle was a neat element. You needed to be careful. I think I mentioned to Gary to be careful there to avoid a spin. It would help your time to be aggressive
diving in there, but it would be easy to overdo it. For your scary work station, yeah - it's scary. It's easy to see who wasn't looking ahead. Gary kicked butt. In the Porsches, I think the order was: Rich (in Gary's car) Bob Benson (RS America with Hoosiers) Uli (GT2 RS) Gary
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Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 04 August 2014 at 4:37pm
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I remember thinking as I lost control entering the stop box... "Oh gawd... I hope I don't hit the timing sensors!" |
Posted By: Bassman
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 6:57am
I TRIED  ...way too much going on I could not leave the property------------- Brian (Bassman) 86 GT Fastback 3.2L 2013 Mazda3 Sport GS SkyActive [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/Bassman68/BassmanSignature.png"> |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 2:19pm
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Well, I've poked fun at myself with my compilation of spin-outs, so here's my final run of the day... which turned out to be my fastest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6uKxgtFSM - Best Time - PCA-CWR Autocross - Aug 2, 2014 Yeah, it's pretty boring... but I didn't want you guys to think I couldn't drive the course without losing control of the car. |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 6:50pm
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Nice videos Patrick. the best of the worst , and the other is just plain boring without all the camera shake and exciting audio .
I think I should give you some pointers on audio for video 
it has gotta be like "Apocalypse Now" loud
Thanks Colby for doing the times. It does help to see how it all ended. I am itching for the next one. I have done some tuning and feel there is a bit more there for the next time.. There is a 3800 SC at Pick a Part, waiting for a Fiero out there ... |
Posted By: Patrick
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 9:41pm
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Just so ya know... I edited out a second of video just as I came to a halt in the stop box. I had looked at the time clock and saw that my run was 64.9XX, the third occurrence that day of basically clocking the same time. I was a little perplexed and quickly expressed my disappointment. You'll now never know what I said. |
Posted By: karnak
Date Posted: 07 August 2014 at 7:30pm
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