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Fiero308
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Topic: Local really nice Fiero for sale Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:38pm |
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Patrick
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 7:56pm |
This is at least the third time it's been on eBay and it's also on Craigslist locally. A little birdy told me he'll sell it for $6000.
By the way, here's a picture of it that he doesn't use in his eBay description.
I kid you not. That is the interior. Look at the dash!
I think he'll be waiting a long time to get $6000 for this Fiero.
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 8:52pm |
No kidding!! Well that certainly changed my opinion of the car.
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 8:59pm |
I thought it might have that effect.
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 10:34am |
Interesting. This ad just appeared in the local Buy&Sell...
I emailed the person and asked if they had lowered the price or if it was a misprint. Here's their response...
Scam artist wrote:
Hi, Thanks for being interested in buying my car!It`s in perfect condition,no scratches,damages and never been implicated in any accidents.It has only 200,000 km and the price is $2,800 CAD.It comes with a new set of winter tires and it has never been smoked in.Because of my divorce settlement,i own this car and as a woman without driver`s license i don`t need it so i`m trying to get rid of it as soon as possible(that`s why i`m selling it so cheap).We will use eBay`s Vehicle Purchase Protection plan for our both safety,i want only legit transactions.Let me know where are you located and any other details you need about it. Have a great day! |
Because I knew the interior was thrashed, I asked the following...
Patrick wrote:
I'm very interested. It looks great. I can pay cash. What condition is the interior? |
Notice that my question is just simply ignored...
Scam artist wrote:
Hi again, I`m located in Montreal(the car is here with me) right now because i got a new job here,the thing is i`m very busy and i don`t have time to stay and meet with all my potential buyers, that is why i gave to a shipping company that will ship it to the next owner(on my cost), so i'm trying to sell it online under eBay`s protection.Here is how it works : The sale will be managed through eBay under their Vehicle Purchase Protection program since they offer the highest rate of safety and reliability during online transactions. They act as a neutral third party. Look how this works: 1. I will contact eBay and give all the info about this deal. 2. They will email us the forms which are needed for our deal(invoice, payment instructions, buyer's and seller's protection policy) 3. You will send the money to eBay and they will notify me to ship the car to your location. 4. After you will inspect the car and decide to keep it, eBay will forward the funds to me once you have approved them to do so. You will have 5 days to inspect it. Please reply with your complete name and shipping address in your next email and let me know if you are interested in knowing more details about this purchase so that I can open a transaction at eBay and to move forward with this deal.After that they will contact you with all necessary information about this transaction(terms,buyer protection,payment instructions,invoice,etc.).
P.S. Please don`t forget to send me your full name and address. |
Yep, total bullsh*t. I thought I'd have some fun though. I'll see what the asshole says to this...
Patrick wrote:
Wow, this is great! I have to go to Montreal on business tomorrow. Please give me an address where I can go see the car. Thanks very much! |
I've reported this dirt bag to the Buy&Sell so they can pull the ad. I really hope there's a special place in Hell for scammers to burn.
I can't believe this, the asshole sent me another response while I was getting ready to post this.
Scam artist wrote:
Hi, I told you before that i`m very busy right now...i just got this new job so i can afford to loose it,i hope you understand.So let`s make it through eBay to skip all that hassle,all you have to do is to send me your full name and address so eBay can complete the invoice onto your name and send it to you by email.Don`t worry in case you won`t like this transaction you can cancel it whenever you want and you will be charged with nothing. |
What I'd like to do is kick this bastard square in the ass, but...
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Okay, I understand. One question though. If I don't like the car (as I'm rather picky), how do I get it back to you? |
I'll add to this thread as I receive further responses.
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 11:02am |
haha unbelievable.. i've seen that one on craigslist a few times too!
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 11:41am |
I last reported I had sent the following...
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Okay, I understand. One question though. If I don't like the car (as I'm rather picky), how do I get it back to you? |
The response from the dirt bag...
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you contact ebay and they will pick it up. |
I replied...
Patrick wrote:
With what, a helicopter? |
It's difficult to believe that some people will fall for this bullsh*t.
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 1:18pm |
Not perturbed at all by my "helicopter" comment, the dirt bag responded...
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with their shipping company DAS. |
I then replied...
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Oh, of course. I've shipped lots of cars with them before. Okay, sounds good.
The only problem is that I live in Calgary and I need the car by Monday. If I pay extra, can I have it air-freighted out? Money really isn't an object as I love this car.
My name and address is:
Red Willey
69 Crevice Crescent
Calgary Alberta
C0K1O1
Please respond quickly as I want to be driving this car soon. Vroom vroom... |
With apologies to the club's redwilley...
No response now for over an hour.
Okay, gotta get back outside to work!
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 2:26pm |
Please feel free to send an email to "simone campbell" at simone.campbell09@gmail.com and ask a few questions about "her" fine '86 Fiero GT.
As a matter of fact the more emails the better.
If anyone reading this knows how to fill that email box to the brim, please give it a shot.
We all hate scammers. Here's an opportunity to kick the virtual ass of one of them.
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 3:02pm |
Haha, ill have some fun too :)
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 11:27pm |
Scam artist wrote:
Hi Red, I sent your details to eBay,you will receive the invoice in a few minutes.I will wait for you to make the payment to eBay so the shipping company can begin the shipping process because the car is already in their custody.When you`ll receive the car you`ll have 5 days of inspection like i told you before and in case you won`t like it you can send it back on my cost and eBay will send all your money back.I will also send all the paperwork and a bill of sale which will be already signed and notarized onto your name.If you decide to keep it all your have to do is to sign the transfer papers and announce eBay to release the funds to me. |
Hooray, I've bought the car of my dreams!!!
For anyone who might be wondering, this is what a fraudulent eBay invoice looks like. (The formatting didn't come out perfect, but it's mostly okay.)
Notice where I'm supposed to send the money!
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Dear Red Willey ,   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;   ; ; ; ;
This is a confirmation mail regarding authenticity of Simone Campbell, Vehicle Purchase Protection membership.
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Currently our company can provide a Vehicle Purchase Protection Coverage up to CAD $20,000.00(because of his 100% feedback). Transactions with this eBay seller are covered by purchase protection against fraud and description errors.Your funds will be insured by us.
This seller can use our Vehicle Purchase Protection only on eBay or Trader Corporation(trader.ca and buysell.com). |
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Complete your eBay transaction in 5 easy steps: |
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1) Buyer and seller agree on the transaction terms and a selling price. Seller contacts eBay with the transaction details;
2) eBay accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required from either the buyer or the seller);
3) The buyer receives an invoice and complete the money transfer to Vehicle Purchase Protection Program Department. After the payment is received by eBay Vehicle Purchase department and approved the seller will initiate the delivery. The seller has three business days to send the buyer and eBay the tracking number of the shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is immediately sent to the buyer;
4) Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it. If it is complete and as described, the buyer should accept the merchandise. If he refuses the merchandise, the buyer must ship the merchandise back to the seller within three business days.The seller will pay for shipping back the merchandise.
5) After the inspection period is over ( 5 business days ), the buyer must contact us with the result of the inspection. If the buyer refuses the merchandise, the refund will be sent to the buyer after the tracking number for the returned shipment is verified. Should you need a refund for this transaction, the insured amount will be taken from the seller's purchase protection account and sent to you. The refund is sent to your bank account,or using the same method , or by check or money order. The way you are refunded is at your choice. You have 30 days from the above verification date to request a refund. Refund requests are processed within 24 hours. The insurer of this transaction is eBay Inc., located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125, United States of America . The account is managed by eBay's Square Trade center. This transaction is supervised by eBay 's Safe-Harbor team. If you need any help in completing this transaction feel free to call our number : +1 (408)-627-7619.
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1) If the item doesn't arrive and/or the seller stops communications after the payment was received; 2) If the merchandise you receive has different specifications than the ones you agreed on; 3) If your merchandise arrives in a much longer period than the one you agreed on (more than 15 days from the payment clearance day); For cases 2) and 3) you have to send back the merchandise to the seller prior to ask for your refund. If you did not pay the seller by payment method required by us, your refund request will be declined. |
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1. The contact information should only be used for resolving matters related to eBay . Any other use is strictly prohibited. 2. This transaction is protected by eBay services such as insurance, feedback and dispute resolution. 3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions with this eBay member. 4. Should you need to dispute this transaction, keep the transaction number at hand when contacting eBay. Any complaints must be filed within 30 days from the verification date. | >
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The seller (Simone Campbell), started the transaction over the eBay Vehicle Purchase Program. eBay requires the payment to be done through Money Gram money transfer service to a Vehicle Purchase Protection Program verified agent.For a better safety our eBay United Kingdom department(eBay.co.uk) will also supervise this transaction.
You are receiving this e-mail because you are going to buy an item over the eBay Motors and your seller requested to use eBay Vehicle Protection Program. The eBay Motors vehicle protection programs offer a set of services that build protection into every step of the vehicle buying process. Some of the elements are automatically included when you buy a vehicle covered by the program element (not all elements are available for all vehicles) while some of the elements are available for a small fee. The eBay Motors vehicle protection program is your safety net in the rare occasion that something goes wrong.
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Instructions for payment. |
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1986 Pontiac Fiero GT |
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$2,800.00 CAD (shipping included) |
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Like new condition. Never been involved |
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in an accident, no damages, scratches |
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Buyer: Red Willey |
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$2,8 00.00 CAD & ; ; ;nbs p; 1st payment |
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$0.00 CAD |
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$0.00 CAD & ; ; ;nbs p; & ; ; ;nbs p; 2nd payment |
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$2,800.00CAD |
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Red Willey |
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69 Crevice Crescent Calgary AB C0K101 Canada | |
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4 Hampshire Close London N18 2LG England United Kingdom
SSN:526-11-5614
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1. Locate the nearest Money Gram Office(You can use MoneyGram services at all Canada Post outlets, numerous grocery and drug stores, currency exchanges, and anywhere you see the MoneyGram sign). |
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2. Make the payment with cash using the above Vehicle Purchase verified agent details(Clyde Lynch). |
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Note:-Our main payment method is PayPal but because this is a large purchase PayPal doesn't qualify for this transaction,also Money Gram is as safe as PayPal. -Transfer fees can be deducted from the amount your are sending(Example.When you send $4.000CAD the fees will be about $155 so you can send $3845+$155 so the total amount that you send will be $4000).The seller agreed and signed this clause into the contract so there won`t be any problem. -When sending funds to our agent will not need any city or state code (4 digits) as payment must be completed to a person directly which is our agent , not directly to our company.You also need to ask the clerk to use money transfer, not money order to make the payment. -If you want to locate the nearest Money Gram Office in your area please click here.(try to search a Money Gram location without putting your postal code into the form). -We have a global reach through our network of 180,000 local agents across 190 countries and territories – giving you real convenience and flexibility. So with MoneyGram you’re never far away from a fast and easy money transfer. Where to find us in Canada
You can use MoneyGram services at all Canada Post outlets, numerous grocery and drug stores, currency exchanges, and anywhere you see the MoneyGram sign.
We will hold the payment until you send us your confirmation that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon as we receive your confirmation we will make the payment to the seller. Until then the seller won't be able to access the money you sent and in any case you decide not to continue with the deal you will receive a full refund. |
The payment details are confidential and will not be released under any circumstances. Vehicle Protection Program security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given evolving circumstances globally, drawing on both internal assessments and the support of government agencies. Our constant priority is for the safety of our people, our customers, and the general public. Vehicle Protection Program always tries to fulfill its customers needs. |
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Posted: 27 September 2009 at 11:34am |
Sent off another email to the scumbucket...
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My dear Simone, I'm a little confused. Who is Clyde Lynch ? |
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Posted: 27 September 2009 at 11:57am |
Just for fun I ran a google search for the "Help" phone number listed in the BS invoice above. A search for 403-627-7619 turned up this interesting information. Read the posts Here. [EDIT] As of Nov 10th, people are still being scammed by these same bastards!
Then I googled 713-583-8130, the fax number listed above. Read This. Unbelievable that someone would actually fall for this nonsense.
With all the documentation that can be found on these bastards, how the hell do they continue to be in "business"? Why aren't con artists like these in jail?
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Posted: 27 September 2009 at 10:47pm |
Hi Patrick,
Tryed sending you a private message regarding your use of my fiero name redwilley to hide your own identity on the internet. Message LOST???? I see you apoligized for using it however I woulld very much appreciate it if you made up your own name to catch people you believe to be thieves on e-bay.
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Posted: 27 September 2009 at 11:21pm |
I received no PM from you.
You're not honest-to-goodness actually upset that I used the name Red Willey are you?
I thought if anything you might think it was funny. It's not as if I used your real name.
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Posted: 28 September 2009 at 7:03pm |
No offense Patrick but you do OCCASIONALLY rub people the wrong way. Every little thing wrong in our little Fiero world you tend to call attention to and try to 'right'. Sometimes it's better to just live and let live. Not every Fiero on Craigslist is your problem or your responsibility.
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Posted: 28 September 2009 at 7:16pm |
Buddy wrote:
No offense Patrick but you do OCCASIONALLY rub people the wrong way. |
Where, here or at Pennock's?
Let's hear about or see an example.
Pretty strange though to be bringing this up in a thread where I'm trying to expose a scammer so that honest, trustworthy people don't get taken advantage of.
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Posted: 28 September 2009 at 7:29pm |
Yes Patrick, it's another conspiracy. I know your 'retard' comment didn't go over very well with everyone a while back. I'm not here to sling mud, just a subtle recommendation that not everything that bugs you is internet worthy. I'm sure Red Willey's life will go on after you used his screen name it's just a matter of being sensitive to people who may not be as callous as you. Craigslist mostly bothers you, we know that. Scammers and many things on eBay bothers you too, we know that as well. How about using all that energy and spare time of yours for better endeavours? Your slowly developing a 'sky is falling' reputation. Letting stuff slide will lower your blood pressure so you can live longer and enjoy Fieros longer. Think of it as a win-win situation.
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Posted: 28 September 2009 at 7:53pm |
Buddy wrote:
Every little thing wrong in our little Fiero world you tend to call attention to and try to 'right'. Not every Fiero on Craigslist is your problem or your responsibility. |
The more I think about what you've said, the more ignorant I feel your comments are.
This is a forum. This is where people are supposed to discuss things, usually Fiero related. If I see a pattern where the same type of Fieros (usually GTs) are being advertised on Craigslist for low prices and no one ever gets a response when they contact these "sellers", then I feel it’s worthy of discussion here.
So what the hell is YOUR problem with that?
This would be a rather dead forum if everyone here had your posts per day rate.
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I know your 'retard' comment didn't go over very well with everyone a while back. |
This is the first I've heard about it. I would imagine the only person upset with me saying that might be the retard(s) posting those fake ads.
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Letting stuff slide will lower your blood pressure so you can live longer and enjoy Fieros longer. Think of it as a win-win situation. |
Maybe you should consider your own advice and simply ignore my posts in the future.
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Posted: 28 September 2009 at 10:29pm |
haha take it to the parking lot boys!
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