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Joshb85gt 
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 Topic: WTB: TransmissionPosted: 20 October 2012 at 1:29pm |
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Hello all. Im new to the fourm.
My 85GT 4 speed is on the Fritz. I tore the tranny apart and found out I have a broken Syncro Hub for the 1st and 2nd gear. I tried everywhere to locate one. GM dealer says no GM dealer in Canada has the part. Alot of transmission websites dont seem to carry parts for the 4speed. afew websites down in the states have the part I need. But they dont accept payment and ship outside of the US. That leaves me to looking at the auto wrecking yards. No one has any fiero in there yard it seems where I live. (Vancouver Island, Nanaimo) They have a tranny from a Cavalier but they want almost $500. which im not willing to spend. If anyone has a 4 speed they are selling. im interested. I dont mind if its a 5 speed. just aslong as it comes with a shifter and shifter cables. |
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bcampbell
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 1:22am |
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F23 5-speeds (from 00-02 Cavalier/Sunfire 2.2) can be had
at a wrecker for IIRC around $2-300 and they're supposed to be good transmissions, however the mount and shift cable setup is different. There is someone on fiero.nl selling swap brackets though. There's a guy parting out a Cavalier in Vancouver who told me he would sell the trans for $80, but I'm also on VI. |
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
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D_sensitized
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 7:27pm |
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I would recommend the F23 if you're up for the work. You need to make mounts, shifter brackets, clutch line adapter, custom cables, although I think you can make stock ones work. But axles and clutch would be the same.
I believe you can buy all that stuff online now, mostly from pennocks (fiero.nl). Pick-a-part here in Chilliwak charges $95+$20 core for any transmission. I have a thread somewhere on here about my F23 swap. Edit - transmissions are on sale for $50 right now. |
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-Harrison
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Capt Fiero
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 8:12pm |
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FOY Racing in Roy Washington sells the install kit. Its not cheap, but the F23 is far superior to the Getrag if you want to go with a 5spd from what understand you can LSD kits and different Ratio's and all sorts of cool stuff for the. FOY is rebuilding my 4.9 Fiero for me right now. Should be done in a few more weeks. Here is a link to their thread with the kits on PFF.
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88 Fiero GT 5spd V6 Eight Fifty Seven GT V8 5spd. |
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bcampbell
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 10:33pm |
Any T56s there?? Anyone feel like pulling an F23 for me? 
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Joshb85gt
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 10:59pm |
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i saw that kit. there was a trans from a 2000+ cavalier for 200. came with a engine that had a knock. then i looked up the install kit. it be over $400 just for the brackets and such by the time i get it to my door. |
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Capt Fiero
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 11:12pm |
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Joshb85gt
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 11:19pm |
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thank you. ill give it a look threw.
im just searching ralphs recyled automotive inventory search. they have a 1987 fiero. looks like it got hit on the passager side door. i cant tell if its a manual or an auto. there is something blocking the center part of the fiero in one of the photos. im pretty sure its a 4cly. |
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Joshb85gt
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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 11:25pm |
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pick a part website says they have a 87 fiero. could be the same one possibly as ralphs? anyways it says its a standard. it will be the 5 speed mated to the duke.
ill give them an email asking if they have it. not bad for 49.95. I dont drive my car hard so that tranny will be just fine. If anyone is stopping by there anytime soon. would one of you fellow mind giving it a quick look to see how it is for me? |
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D_sensitized
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Posted: 25 October 2012 at 7:02pm |
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I believe the fiero at pickapart has a V6 in it. It looks to have been someones project car at some point, there were quite a few other spare bits in there as well, but it was still pretty picked through when I was there in the summer.
Ralph's is also quite a bit more expensive than pick-a-part I find. And it's not nearly as nice. |
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-Harrison
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Joshb85gt
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Posted: 25 October 2012 at 7:30pm |
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thanks for the tip. looks like the sale will end soon for the trannsmission at pickapart. they also dont have an email on there website that i can find. i dont have time to call them since im at work. by the time i get home there closed already. phooie
if anyone knows of anyone whos selling/parting out a fiero let me know. that will help greatly. Thank you |
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bcampbell
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Posted: 25 October 2012 at 10:08pm |
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Whenever I get around to doing an F23 swap, you can have my
4-speed for free. I live in Victoria. I probably won't be doing it until January though after my current project is running. |
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
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Joshb85gt
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Posted: 25 October 2012 at 10:15pm |
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sounds good to me. if you want. ill gladly give you a hand if you need a helper. maybe get your project done alittle faster.
Faster I can get a transmission the happer i will be :P |
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bcampbell
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Posted: 28 October 2012 at 9:45pm |
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Since the car will probably be down for a couple of days
and I still need to gather parts, it definitely won't be happening till late December at the earliest. Right now I'm dumping all my money into the 3500 Turbo Firebird project :D. That being said the cost of an F23 swap will be significantly less than what I'm doing to the Firebird so I probably won't need to save too much money for it. If you have a 5-speed shifter and cables I'd be interested in purchasing them. |
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
'89 Firebird 3500T, T56 |
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D_sensitized
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Posted: 29 October 2012 at 12:24pm |
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Here is the thread on pennocks that has a lot of good info on the F23 swap.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/087296.html |
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-Harrison
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bcampbell
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Posted: 29 October 2012 at 5:41pm |
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Hey are you the one who installed an OBX LSD in yours? If so, how
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
'89 Firebird 3500T, T56 |
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Joshb85gt
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Posted: 29 October 2012 at 10:41pm |
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Sorry I do not have a 5 speed shifter and cables. I do however have an extra engine cradle from an 86 fiero.
Im keeping that for my 3.8 swap. when ever I get around to do the swap ill have the cradle in my 85gt i wont be needing anymore. |
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Posted: 30 October 2012 at 5:39pm |
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Yes, I put the OBX LSD in my F23. Ir works great, and made a noticeable difference during autoX.
But if you do go with an OBX, take it apart, clean, smooth, debur, finish, and rebuild it properly before installing it. I replaced all the hardware in mine just to be safe. |
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-Harrison
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bcampbell
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Posted: 07 January 2013 at 11:55pm |
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Hey I don't know if you still need my 4-speed but I've been
gradually gathering parts for my F23 swap and all I really have left to buy is the trans, clutch, and shifter. I should be ready to do the swap either by the end of this month or the first half of Febuary. I ended up getting a great price on a new OBX LSD as well so I'm pretty excited. Firebird's keeping me occupied right now. I just have to build my downpipe, intercooler piping, and 1.5 motor mounts. Pretty much everything else is done. Oh and re- shim the diff :) |
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'86 2m6 F23 5-speed, LSD, 3.5L LX9
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Posted: 08 January 2013 at 7:54am |
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I've got one, free, come take it.
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