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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dawg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2011 at 12:57pm
The speedo is hooked to the transmission via a speed sensor.  If you're using a stock tranny then no problem.  Otherwise, you might need to get a converter to massage the existing signal of whatever tranny you have.  Not hard to do.

The Tach hooks to the coil circuit typically.  There is an easy way to make the Tach adjustable.  You simply need a multi turn pot and some soldering skills.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 April 2011 at 9:00pm
Will this speedo work?
It is programable so it should work..........

http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=3117&s id=11

Plus it looks cool.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 April 2011 at 9:53pm
Should - but a dakota digital box will also convert the signal, and let you keep your stock gauges.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2011 at 4:41pm
I got the Dakota box and it appears it has a setting for this type of setup.
(#3 Convert a high-speed signal found on newer GM transmissions down to a low speed signal to run a speedometer, cruise control, or fuel injection computer. )

I have 2 sensor wires both from the speed sensor , but I only need one for the box. There is the purple/white and the yellow. Which one do I use? I think it is the yellow if the wiring schematics are correct it appears to go to the sensor input.

Anyone done this before?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2011 at 5:59pm
The VSS generates an A/C signal doesn't it? If so, you need both wires to see the whole wave.  I could be wrong.  ;)

If it's a square wave, and one side is referenced to ground, then...  yeah...  one wire of the VSS could be grounded, and the other fed into the Dakota box (don't confuse it with your Lakota box though, or an elderly native gentleman will come and talk to you about your muscle aches).

Look on the GM diagrams, and see if they're marked VSS hi/low.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2011 at 6:09pm
Purple/white is low and Yellow is high according to one diagram.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Romeo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2011 at 9:41pm

Oh my god... Craker, that was the worst joke in the history of... Ever.

I think, in the end, John's right. Typically (Read: Stock) both halves of the signal are used, as the VSS is a AC voltage generator...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2011 at 10:27pm
On the Fiero tranny it is - but since he's got a late model one - I'm really not sure what they output.  If it's a hall effect, it'll be a square wave (I think).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Romeo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 April 2011 at 12:07am
All of them are AC as they come out. If it has a module on it, that'll convert the signal to a DC frequency signal, but every one of them that I've seen are two wires in, one wire out.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 April 2011 at 7:19am
From the GM service manual;

The vehicle speed sensor generates a signal that indicates the speed of the vehicle.The signal produced is a sine wave, which is processed
into a square wave by the Vehicle Speed Sensor
Buffer to supply inputs to the Speedometer,
Electronic Control Module and Cruise Control.

The frequency of the AC voltage coming from this coil depends
on the vehicle's speed. As the speed increases,
so does the number of voltage pulses per second.
The Vehicle Speed Sensor Buffer takes the
sensor/voltage pulses from the Sensor, through
the PPLIWHT and YEL wires, and uses them
to close a Solid State output switch. The output
terminal is switched to ground at a rate that is
proportional to the speed of the car. The output
to the ECM and Cruise Control is switched at
2000 pulses per mile after it has been through a
"divide by two circuit" in the ECM.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr.Fiero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 April 2011 at 7:45am
Ok!  Then there's your answer.  Sine wave output.
Gets converted to the aforementioned square wave up stream....

You could TRY grounding the purple, and see if you get a sine wave (a/c) between yellow and ground.  If so, then stuff the yellow into the dakota box (I'd guess they're referencing to ground for it's input).
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 April 2011 at 9:31am
I agree, that's just what I was thinking.
That's right, there is a (common)ground, then there's the ground for the VSS sensor. I will try the Yellow for the sensor and Purple for the ground and see if it works.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2011 at 8:08am
Here's an audio clip of the Ecotec.

2011-05-01_080758_Ecotec_Sound.rar
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Romeo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2011 at 9:30pm
It's nice, but you need to crack that throttle. Idle's nice - redline's better.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2011 at 6:03am
Ok,ok, I'll do a proper recording and give it a litle juice.
Just for you.


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Tee hee. You're the best.
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