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Dawg
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 April 2011 at 12:57pm |
The speedo is hooked to the transmission via a speed sensor. If you're using a stock tranny then no problem. Otherwise, you might need to get a converter to massage the existing signal of whatever tranny you have. Not hard to do.
The Tach hooks to the coil circuit typically. There is an easy way to make the Tach adjustable. You simply need a multi turn pot and some soldering skills. The Dawg |
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Medic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 April 2011 at 9:00pm |
Will this speedo work?
It is programable so it should work.......... http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=3117&s id=11 Plus it looks cool. |
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Dr.Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 April 2011 at 9:53pm |
Should - but a dakota digital box will also convert the signal, and let you keep your stock gauges.
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Medic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2011 at 4:41pm |
I got the Dakota box and it appears it has a setting for this type of setup.
(#3 Convert a high-speed signal found on newer GM transmissions down to a low speed signal to run a speedometer, cruise control, or fuel injection computer. ) I have 2 sensor wires both from the speed sensor , but I only need one for the box. There is the purple/white and the yellow. Which one do I use? I think it is the yellow if the wiring schematics are correct it appears to go to the sensor input. Anyone done this before? |
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Dr.Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2011 at 5:59pm |
The VSS generates an A/C signal doesn't it? If so, you need both wires to see the whole wave. I could be wrong. ;)
If it's a square wave, and one side is referenced to ground, then... yeah... one wire of the VSS could be grounded, and the other fed into the Dakota box (don't confuse it with your Lakota box though, or an elderly native gentleman will come and talk to you about your muscle aches). Look on the GM diagrams, and see if they're marked VSS hi/low. |
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Medic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2011 at 6:09pm |
Purple/white is low and Yellow is high according to one diagram.
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Romeo
Senior Post God Joined: 16 November 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3033 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2011 at 9:41pm |
Oh my god... Craker, that was the worst joke in the history of... Ever. I think, in the end, John's right. Typically (Read: Stock) both halves of the signal are used, as the VSS is a AC voltage generator... |
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Dr.Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2011 at 10:27pm |
On the Fiero tranny it is - but since he's got a late model one - I'm really not sure what they output. If it's a hall effect, it'll be a square wave (I think).
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Romeo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 April 2011 at 12:07am |
All of them are AC as they come out. If it has a module on it, that'll convert the signal to a DC frequency signal, but every one of them that I've seen are two wires in, one wire out.
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Medic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 April 2011 at 7:19am |
From the GM service manual;
The vehicle speed sensor generates a signal that indicates the speed of the vehicle.The signal produced is a sine wave, which is processed into a square wave by the Vehicle Speed Sensor Buffer to supply inputs to the Speedometer, Electronic Control Module and Cruise Control. The frequency of the AC voltage coming from this coil depends on the vehicle's speed. As the speed increases, so does the number of voltage pulses per second. The Vehicle Speed Sensor Buffer takes the sensor/voltage pulses from the Sensor, through the PPLIWHT and YEL wires, and uses them to close a Solid State output switch. The output terminal is switched to ground at a rate that is proportional to the speed of the car. The output to the ECM and Cruise Control is switched at 2000 pulses per mile after it has been through a "divide by two circuit" in the ECM. |
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Dr.Fiero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 April 2011 at 7:45am |
Ok! Then there's your answer. Sine wave output.
Gets converted to the aforementioned square wave up stream.... You could TRY grounding the purple, and see if you get a sine wave (a/c) between yellow and ground. If so, then stuff the yellow into the dakota box (I'd guess they're referencing to ground for it's input). |
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Medic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 April 2011 at 9:31am |
I agree, that's just what I was thinking.
That's right, there is a (common)ground, then there's the ground for the VSS sensor. I will try the Yellow for the sensor and Purple for the ground and see if it works. |
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Medic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 2011 at 8:08am |
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Romeo
Senior Post God Joined: 16 November 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3033 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 2011 at 9:30pm |
It's nice, but you need to crack that throttle. Idle's nice - redline's better.
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Medic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 2011 at 6:03am |
Ok,ok, I'll do a proper recording and give it a litle juice.
Just for you. |
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Romeo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 2011 at 12:59pm |
Tee hee. You're the best.
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