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    Posted: 19 July 2009 at 12:03pm

k so as many of you know, i bought my first fiero yesterday. its turned in to a disaster i dont have a clue on what to do.

the alarm it didnt have wasnt working so i took of the center console and saw a mess of cut wires this is what i found....

 v part of the alarm system all ripped up i beleve? v

 

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sorry about this there bad pictures.... i just dont know where to start on this... its a mess

well heres one of the alarm system for refrence

any help would be awesome!

 

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Originally posted by steve steve wrote:

the alarm it didnt have wasnt working...

So what's the problem then?

What's the "disaster" you're referring to? Doesn't the car run?

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     OK First question, what engine is in the car?  as many of the plugs and the ECM are not stock.  Not even close.   As for the alarm, I can't help you without being there with a meter.   You are going to have to find the detailed wiring info for that alarm and start tracing where which wires go.  Heck you will also need to find out what options were installed with the alarm.

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no.... it needs new spark plugs, im trying to take out the alarm system because it does not work., the other thing is that there are tonns of other wires cut. important or not i have no clue what any of them are... i guess you need to see it to know what needs to be done. but like seeing other pics of what should be under the steering column and under the console or anything like what can i rip out, it has no sound sytem at all it was broken in to and i dont need one thats on the bottom of my list to get done.......
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its got a cavilier z24 engine. and ill take a pic of the entire alarm system that i have taken out so far. hold on a sec.
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The only you NEED to find out is if the "crank" wire Large purple wire in the harness has not been CUT for the alarm starter disable.  Everything else that is hooked to the alarm can be removed.  The large purple wire goes all the way from the large bulkhead connector between the seats, down the center coulomb, then snakes over to the clutch pedal.  I believe the other side of the clutch pedal is yellow as it goes up to the steering coulomb.   

That single wire is the one that normally gets cut for a starter kill.  If it has an ignition kill, you'll have to look it up.

Again though, what engine is in there?    Does it by chance have a 3.1 with Aluminum heads?

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Originally posted by steve steve wrote:

no.... it needs new spark plugs

So you bought this Fiero without seeing it run?

Whose diagnosis determined it just needs spark plugs to run properly, yours or the previous owner's?

 

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that and another sensor and a whole schwack of wires the alarm system is an alpine sec-150R

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his... i have seen it run tho way back in april before it got broken in to =/
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Must've hurt when you banged that toe nail.
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ya its 3.1
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Originally posted by steve steve wrote:

his... i have seen it run tho way back in april before it got broken in to =/

I'd take "his" diagnosis with a grain of salt.

Seeing all those cut wires and hearing that the car now doesn't run... not good.

 

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oh heh that was when i was skiing, my boots were done up to tight and i got "black toe" as some mountan climbers call it and no its just a bruse it didnt hurt that much at all, ok so the purple wire can NOT be cut right, it is fine. but the rest i can rip out... but the thing is i dont want to rip the rest out because theres a big knot and i dont know what else is in there..
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oh and it needs new struts...

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do you know the car capt?

id post a pic for you.. hold on a sec

k there we go:

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There needs to be a law preventing 1600 x 1200 images from being posted in a thread.
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sorry... ill try to crop them down next time
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Yeah, it makes reading the posts pretty difficult when it becomes necessary to scroll back and forth and back and forth from side to side to read every line of text.

 

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since you have seen the pics, i guess we can just wait till were on page 2... unless i could delete the pics and thenit would be normal but that defets the purpose of the questsion...
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