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Capt Fiero 
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 Posted: 15 September 2010 at 2:09pm |
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Brian not sure if you have your own airline source now or what, however both Cracker and I have Air Dryers and I have a double dryer setup here as well. Regardless of how you do it, you are going to have to pull the master out of the car in order to clean it properly, pull the slave off and clean it, as well as push the alcohol through the lines to make sure they are clean. Not a small job, especially if you are not having problems with your clutch currently.
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Bassman
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Posted: 15 September 2010 at 5:25pm |
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I was just looking at all the options David, when the new adapters come in I was considering to play and do this, but I can wait until there is a need...if anything we can test and flush with DOT5 and ensure it works and have clean fluid, then again I am storing for the winter soon...lol
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Brian (Bassman)
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Bassman
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Posted: 16 September 2010 at 4:29pm |
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Ya...picking up the adapters today for Post Office...I will update once I have tried the screw on caps and make sure they are correct...then we can chat Dawg for 2 x support plates for the brake adapter.
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kharmata
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Posted: 16 September 2010 at 4:43pm |
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In case you need a test vehicle for this - let me know and
I would be more than willing to loan my vehicle (which could use both brake and clutch system bleeds  I would
even buy the fluid required. 
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Bassman
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Posted: 16 September 2010 at 6:23pm |
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I did butn this for personal and club, let's chat and work out a date...do you have a covered area to work in, it's getting a little wet out now days |
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kharmata
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Posted: 16 September 2010 at 6:34pm |
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I currently reside in an apartment. It is covered parking but not always much room to work. I gather the wheels have to come off to do brakes...or can this be accomplished through my oversized thin spoked wheels? |
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Bassman
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Posted: 16 September 2010 at 6:35pm |
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If you can access the bleeder on the calpier, then wheels stay on:)...
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kharmata
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Posted: 16 September 2010 at 6:38pm |
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 I am pretty sure I can - will confirm... Yup - no need to remove wheels for bleeding brakes.
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Bassman
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Posted: 16 September 2010 at 7:59pm |
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Yipee...the round clutch fits!!!.eed to pressure test, and the brake is MUCH bigger, but the rubber still hard. I think this will work just fine with a C-clamp, etc...and the adapter for my GA I'll check later...so good news:)
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Patrick
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Posted: 17 September 2010 at 1:35am |
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Good news! I wanna try it!
Not quite as good news. However, I'll be pretty interested to hear how well that works out on one of our Fiero plastic brake reservoirs.
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Bassman
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 3:37pm |
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Update...I am PISSED!!! I have emailed now asking what the next steps are as the rectangular brake adapter does not work, will not hold pressure...the screw on round ones work very well...but for almost $300US now for a kit that does not work...BS, take this back and give me my refund!.
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Bassman
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 3:42pm |
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It will be interesting to see their response when this is their refund policy: Returns due to customer mis-ordered items will be accepted after receiving an RA# from Motive Products. Items should be in an as new condition and with all packaging and parts. Items returned in a used condition or having been exposed to brake fluid, motor oil, or other fluids will not be credited a refund. Customer is responsible for payment of shipping of mis-ordered items. We highly encourage customers to review the application guide or call with questions to determine the correct application. Should Motive Products have shipped an incorrect or defective item Motive Products will make all efforts in good faith to rectify the issue. Copy of customer invoice may be requested to verify date of purchase. John, maybe I can buy an adapter simular to your and use it with what I have?...thoughts? |
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Dr.Fiero
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 3:56pm |
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Well, this is what I have: http://www.speedibleed.com/
This is the adapter I think you're referring to: http://www.speedibleed.com/order/c200.php Pretty sure (I'd have to go look) that they have 1/8 NPT threads, so if the couplers aren't the same - it'd be easy to mate them up. |
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Bassman
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 4:23pm |
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I emailed Motive to ask...certainly collecting allot of adapters...lol
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kharmata
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 4:33pm |
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Even if it does not work but is close - I have always been creative enough to figure out the necessary mods to make it work...I offer my help anytime.
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Bassman
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 4:53pm |
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Thanks:)...at the car now, and holding 8 lbs.
It works and with some help well get this sealing and working. So, ready to go:) |
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 5:19pm |
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Got it working and holding 12lbs psi for over 10 minutes...all adapters work, who's 1st:)...lol
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 5:31pm |
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Ok, here's some pics... Fiero Brake adapter, holding 12lbs psi:
Fiero Clutch holding 8lbs psi:
And my GA Brake holding 8lbs psi:
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kharmata
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 7:45pm |
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Tell me what I need to bring - when and where. |
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 7:50pm |
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Do your wheels have to come off?...you can come over to my place, I am by Lougheed Mall, maybe next Sunday am...let's chat |
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