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Romeo ![]() Senior Post God ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 November 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3033 |
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Actually, a more specific question: Could it be the actual connection to the regulater (The wires) that's causing the failure? |
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CFoss ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 February 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 580 |
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Absolutely it could be that.
When I had lost the feed to the reg on my car, it would run ok due to self excitation from the altenator residual flux, but when I loaded it (Like turning on the headlights), the engine would skip a beat and the voltage of the whole car would go down. No reg = no field current = low voltage under load. Chay |
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Romeo ![]() Senior Post God ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 November 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3033 |
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Could it promote the opposite effect? If the wiring was wonky (ALLITERATION! YES!) could that cause the alternator to always try and pump out max voltage? |
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CFoss ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 February 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 580 |
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That's more a sign of a busted voltage regulator (Stuck on boost).
An altenator requires higher field current for the voltage to go higher. This could only happen with good connections, and a reg stuck on boost, maxing out the field current.
Your voltage should not exceed 14.2 or so. Higher and your bat will cook.
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Romeo ![]() Senior Post God ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 November 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3033 |
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Well, I took a reading of the new alternator and it's at 14.7V Maybe the battery will take that?
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kharmata ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 291 |
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Did you measure open circuit...? |
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Of course meaning no load on the alternator. It's possible that this alternator isn't charging at all or very little. That might cause it to have a higher than normal voltage for sure.
Good idea Kev. The only way to know this is to measure the actual charging current. If it's pumping 14.7 volts 30 amps+ into a regular starting battery there won't be much battery left for long. The Dawg
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kharmata ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 291 |
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If you measure it when you first start the car (battery connected) - and perhaps the battery is not fully charged - the voltage will be higher for a short time and as the battery builds up bit more of a voltage drop the volts will drop. If the battery is fully charged and you have this high...hmmm not sure. seems high. |
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Romeo ![]() Senior Post God ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 November 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3033 |
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Was flipping through my old notes about alternators though, and it doesn't seem that unrealistic. As far as I can see, an alternator tries to keep the battery at 14.5-14.7V.
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To me, that's too high a voltage. Over the long term, my opinion is that it will cook.
Start the car and idle. Measure the voltage. Rev up the car slowly to 2500rpm or so. Does the voltage level off, or keep climbing incrementally over the next minute or so? What does it top out at? My experience is that the voltage works like this: 1) Before starting, lowest voltage at the battery 2) Start. Idle. voltage is sub 14.2. voltage increases as car is reved indicating increased ability to send current to the battery as the engine speed increases 3) Voltage tops out quickly (On a decent battery) at a max of 14.2 or so. Voltage should not creep. There should be a hard limit on the upper voltage I found this after looking for a bit. Maybe 14.4 before it gasses... I've never seen one top out that high though. Voltages for common usagesThese are general voltage ranges for six-cell lead-acid batteries:
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