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I'm using full synthetic in my car. The general issue is if your car is already leaking, synthetic, being more slippery, will make your engine leak faster or more.

Synthetic is more expensive, but theoretically, you don't need to change your oil as often. So overall cost should be about the same. Unless, of course, you do buy into the marketing and change your oil more often than necessary.

The benefit is if you are storing your car, especially through the winter, the oil will not break down as easily. Also viscosity appears to be more consistant so simply starting it up and running is fine. No long warm-up period required.   That's why most new cars have no recommendation for warm-up periods.

The downside, besides expense, is most people don't really know the very longterm effects of synthetic oil on your car. If I only change my oil once a year instead of twice a year, does that affect my overall engine longevity? The jury is still out on that. If you only keep your car a few years and then trade it in, it doesn't matter.   But on 25+ year old unrestored engines (of which most of those years it's already been running on dino oil) the benefit of switching to synthetic in a daily driver is really an unknown and probably an unnecessary exercise.

Just my opinion.


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I am with you on the "change it out longer" principle. For me, synthetics end up costing significantly more because I still stick to the 5000KM/3 month rule of conventional oils. I'm always concerned, as you said, that leaving the oil in there longer could have unforeseen circumstances which could conspire to increased engine wear. I mean hell, even if the oil holds up, then you can't help but wonder if the filter is being pushed past it's limits.
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Okay gentlemen...let's keep the debate going ...what is your favourite motor oil brand and why?
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Originally posted by Boxin' Robin Boxin' Robin wrote:

...what is your favourite motor oil brand and why?

Whatever Canadian Tire has on special.

 

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Royal Purple.

Because it makes checking the dipstick fun and exciting! And because I get it for pennies on the dollar when it normally costs a first-born child.

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Originally posted by Boxin' Robin Boxin' Robin wrote:

Okay gentlemen...let's keep the debate going ...what is your favourite motor oil brand and why?


I've been using Castrol Syntec in all my cars because BMW recommends it for both the BMW and the MINI. As well, when I went to buy oil at my local GM dealer, it was a case of Castrol Syntec in a box with a GM logo on it. The parts guy said that's what GM uses on all their cars with the exception of the Corvette, which gets Mobil 1.   

Otherwise, I have no preference.


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Huh, never knew GM had a re-branded Castrol. I just assumed they had some cheap AC Delco knock off, as I know Ford has a Motocraft brand oil. Castrol's pretty good stuff though, I know Mopar use them as well.
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Originally posted by beken beken wrote:

  As well, when I went to buy oil at my local GM dealer, it was a case of Castrol Syntec in a box with a GM logo on it. The parts guy said that's what GM uses on all their cars with the exception of the Corvette, which gets Mobil 1.   

GM also requires Mobil 1 in the Solstice GXP or you lose warranty - makes sense as the synthetic stands up much better to the heat of the turbo itself.  They don't have any provision for cooling the turbo once you shut down the engine, which surprises me a little.  On my Fiero, I have a reservoir of cool oil that bleeds through a metered orifice into the turbo bearing after you shut down to give it a chance to cool off.  It is the ash that forms when the oil stops flowing in the sometimes VERY hot turbo that is a killer.

You can certainly extend service intervals a bit with synthetic, and it is great for high mile/year cars.  I don't use it in the race car (you can't use it as a break in oil as it takes so long to allow an engine to finally break in you'd be into the next season!) and I don't bother in the Fiero, I just change every 3000 km or so.

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